Date: Thu, 5 Jul 2007 14:09:31 -0700
Reply-To: Robert Fisher <refisher@MCHSI.COM>
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From: Robert Fisher <refisher@MCHSI.COM>
Subject: Re: Update on stalling '87
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Better take some No-Doz. As I sit here (about 8 miles east of 395) it's 114
with about two hours to go to peak temps. Yesterday topped out at 115, so
the actual temps in this valley are running about 5 degrees above predicted;
Sunday they're guessing 105. They'll be wrong.
Have fun,
Robert
----- Original Message -----
From: "Mike "Rocket J Squirrel" Elliott" <camping.elliott@GMAIL.COM>
To: <vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM>
Sent: Thursday, July 05, 2007 1:16 PM
Subject: Re: Update on stalling '87
>I am watching this thread closely because on Sunday I am heading up
> highway 395 to Bishop, CA., where a high of 102F is predicted. Three
> degrees hotter the following day. I, too, am driving a 1.9L. A good time
> will be had by all. If the cooling system can handle it. If not, then
> it's nighttime driving. I went across the desert a couple times with my
> old man when I was a kid. Burlap sack of water strapped across the front
> grill, bomb-shaped evaporative cooler mounted above Mom's door. Secret
> is finding classic courtyard style motorcourt motel with pool in middle.
> That, and some cold beer. I know the drill.
>
> --
>
> Mike "Rocket J Squirrel" Elliott
> 71 Type 2: the Wonderbus
> 84 Westfalia: Mellow Yellow ("The Electrical Banana")
> 74 Utility Trailer. Ladybug Trailer, Inc., San Juan Capistrano
> KG6RCR
>
> On 7/5/2007 10:24 AM Joseph Fortino wrote:
>
>> my 85 1.9l is doing this only when really hot, i was going to cover fuel
>> lines up
>> like uncle joel suggested, but whats weird is it acts like an ecu/afm
>> issue
>> or like other said hall sensor in the dizzy. oh :)
>>
>> it plays like this with my ride, driving temps low 90's ok, when i hit
>> 100+ it likes to get hot and it just cut out, like the gas pedel is being
>> let up.
>> but power come back.. off and on.. AFM is DROPPING IDLE when the cover is
>> off
>> i think this sucker is toast.
>>
>> I have replaced the ECU with the non digijet setup couple years back..
>> man this is
>> driving me nuts.. I was thinking it was the temp2..its going to get 116
>> today
>> will drive home with the rear lid up maybe like i did on tuesday.. made
>> it home
>>
>>
>> Joe
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: David Kao <dtkao0205@YAHOO.COM>
>>> Sent: Jul 5, 2007 9:31 AM
>>> To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
>>> Subject: Re: Update on stalling '87
>>>
>>> --- TC <trclark@SHAW.CA> wrote:
>>>
>>>>> I have rebuilt ECUs in stock if you find you need one. They are $250
>>>>> plus
>>>> $100 core charge. They are superior to the other ones out on the
>>>> market
>>>> (Fuel Injection Corporation rebuilds). I tried these at one point and
>>>> had a
>>>> 50% mortality rate (in other words 50% of them were defective right out
>>>> of
>>>> the box!).
>>>> Do you also have a similar experience with FIC rebuils on the 1.9 afm's
>>>> ???
>>>> What about the brand new FIC fuel pumps any ffed bacl on those ??
>>>>
>>> In my opinion the problem isn't likely to be a defective ECU. AFM is
>>> likely.
>>> But I have a different observation.
>>>
>>> The 87 starts and spins fast when it is cold. This already tells a lot
>>> about
>>> it. First the ignition is fine. All wires that sometimes will break all
>>> your
>>> bones loose are connected and the plugs are spitting fire. 2ndly the
>>> fuel line
>>> is too connected up front to the tank with proper effort from the pump.
>>>
>>> The temp sensors appear to be doing their job by telling the ECU to feed
>>> more
>>> fuel when they feel cold. And the engine does spin and spin faster. The
>>> only
>>> trouble is when it does warm up it coughs. That tells me that the
>>> air/fuel mixture
>>> is not right for warm idle.
>>>
>>> Check for air leak in the intake system, especially between the AFM and
>>> the actual
>>> intake manifold. My 83 and 84 will idle even with the AFM cable
>>> unplugged.
>>> This is a very nice Vanagon feature allowing me to point fingers at
>>> other parts
>>> of the engine. Be aware that very often 10 fingers are not enough. Use
>>> your toes.
>>>
>>> David
>>>
>>>
>>>
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>>
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