Date: Sat, 14 Jul 2007 14:00:45 -0700
Reply-To: David Kao <dtkao0205@YAHOO.COM>
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From: David Kao <dtkao0205@YAHOO.COM>
Subject: Re: Inside a Subi engine EJ22
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You are more than welcome to delete my post if you do not want to see them
I have received more than enough pmails from those who agree with me not
to convert.
In my opinion Benny's love with his bike has no Vanagon content whatsoever.
David
--- Jake de Villiers <crescentbeachguitar@gmail.com> wrote:
> Mr Kao, if you must continue this senseless & ill-informed diatribe against
> Benoit and Subaru conversions, please do it by P-mail.
>
> The rest of us are happy to have Benoit amongst us, newfound enthusiasm of
> the recently converted and all.
>
> Benny-boy is a fully-paid-up member of the Vanagon tribe and if he wants to
> share his love for fast bikes or the Atlantic Coast, that's fine by me.
>
> Jake de Villiers
>
> On 7/14/07, David Kao <dtkao0205@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >
> > Benny, You do not live in California. You may be right in the case of
> > in Canada. But you are wrong in the case of California.
> >
> > Late model European and Japanese cars are equipped with OBD2 starting
> > from 1997 or 1998 I do not remember exactly. OBD1 is old lady talk.
> > Most vanagons do not even have OBD. I am not sure if any of them has.
> > The last year of Vanagon is in 1991 (or 1992?).
> >
> > In California, and maybe New York and some other states as well, if
> > you take an engine from a car and put it in your car all the original
> > emission devices will need to be transplanted as well. If the car you
> > take the engine from has OBD2 your designated car has to have that OBD2
> > as well.
> >
> > I just saw an EJ25 for sale recently. It was from a 2006 Subaru something
> > like that. If you put it in an 84 Vanagon you are required to take all
> > emission stuff from the 2006 Subaru and put them in the 84 Vanagon.
> > Believe
> > me a 2006 Subaru has OBD2, not OBD1. I am talking about California.
> > Very likely the 2006 Subaru has a 3-way catalyst system. Your 84 Vanagon
> > after the conversion will have the 3-way catalyst system mandated by
> > California law. From your reply I don't think you understand what a 3-way
> > catalyst system is. That's understandable. That's not in your territory.
> > You don't have to care. It is a latest emission system in order to meet
> > the
> > latest emission requirement in some states including California.
> >
> > What is the point I am making? I don't need to spend $9k for exchange
> > to driving at 70 MPH, 5 miles faster, as you said plus all the hassles
> > from the 3-way catalyst system on my old clunker with only $1k value.
> > If your clunker has a value of $15k that's another story.
> >
> > BTW, my OBD2 scanner cost me less than $100. It reads guaranteed all
> > federal mandated p0xxx and p1xxx error codes, p0010 to p1866 to be more
> > exact. Your $7000 scanner sure can do more but forget about it if it
> > can only scan OBD1. My Bentley manual for the Passat has a complete
> > list of these codes and explanation what each one means. I don't need
> > a $7000 scanner even if it can scan an OBD2 system. Gosh, you are not
> > trying to say if I had an EJ25 on my Vanagon I also need to have a
> > $7000 scanner, are you?
> >
> > AutoZone will let you borrow their scanner, take it home and scan your
> > car's on board diagnostic system if your check engine light is on.
> > Been there done that. It is useful only to know what the problem may be.
> > Resetting or erasing an error code if there is one is waste of time.
> > You can't cheat something called readiness state designed in the OBD2
> > to make erasing the error code useless. Dealers or manufacturers may
> > have scanners that can set readiness and cheat. But if the problem
> > is not fixed the error will return within a few days or week. The dealer
> > will not do anything to set any of the readiness states for you. They
> > want you to pay and repair.
> >
> > Have you been there, Benny, with your $7000 scanner? Oh, I forgot to
> > mention.
> > Does your subi conversion include a check engine light on the dash
> > somewhere?
> > It is required. When it comes on don't forget to tell your customers to go
> > to a Subaru dealer, not any VW mechanic, if they can't reach you.
> >
> > David
> >
> >
> >
> > --- Benny boy <huotb@VIDEOTRON.CA> wrote:
> >
> > """"One example, an EJ25 from a late model year of Subaru would be a
> > nightmare for the conversion."""
> >
> > Wrong again, we did 2 and are starting a third one (2006 x 2, 2007) i hate
> > to say we... but that include me. In some ways, it's almost easier.
> >
> > """You would have to have the 3-way catalytic system transplanted
> > into the vanagon.""""
> >
> > Wrong again, first, there is only 2 OS, the second one is only a warning
> > one
> > for cloggued cat, very different design than Honda or Toyota. A VW 2.1EMICO
> > cat is just perfect. Now, the challenge was more around the fuel pressure
> > system, but again, easily solve by Hans from Vanaru.
> >
> > """When the OBD2 system calls for an error code you would be sorry and you
> > would wish you never heard of the conversion. Been there"""
> >
> > Sure if you plug an OBD (not 2 by the way) you will have errors, a lot,
> > like
> > your door is not close so the engine won't start, he he he. But now, you
> > need to know about OBD reader and how to use them... my shared!! reader
> > cost
> > 7000$. You have been there?
> >
> >
> >
> >
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>
>
>
> --
> Jake
> 1984 Vanagon GL
> 1986 Westy Weekender "Dixie"
> www.crescentbeachguitar.com
>
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