Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2007 15:38:00 -0700
Reply-To: Jake de Villiers <crescentbeachguitar@GMAIL.COM>
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From: Jake de Villiers <crescentbeachguitar@GMAIL.COM>
Subject: Re: Who throws more rods contest,
was: Re: SUBIE VAN ENGINE FIRE...LISTER NEEDS HELP in PA
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I didn't want to make this personal Jim, just didn't care for the apples to
elephants comparison that Clark posted.
However, when I go to your chosen site, 'Escort Engine' gives me a value of
7.69 and 'Legacy Engine' gives 24.29.
What does that mean?
On 7/12/07, Jim Akiba <jakiba@bostig.com> wrote:
>
> Jeez guys, this guy's van almost burns and the thread goes into
> sectarian disagreements based on google search results?... at least
> let's change the subject line
>
> Jake, also keep in mind, that while we're all smiling since this is
> obviously not scientific... and I agree with your apples to apples
> attention... the numbers on the road themselves. There are something
> like 30-40 zetecs per each ej22 or ej25, and around 200 zetecs per svx
> engine.. but better than that, dump the google idea and just go to the
> reliability index site here:
>
>
> http://www.reliabilityindex.co.uk/man_index_2.html?searchtype=engine&country=usa
>
> That link is specifically for engines alone, and since their profits
> are directly related to how accurate their information is... they have
> lot's to lose in being wrong about it.
>
> Oh and I disagree with you about your numbers making subaru look good.
> What makes Subaru look good is superimposed deer and geese in front of
> their Lafayette plant, and supermodel spokesmen telling people how
> environmentally responsible they are ha
>
> But anyhow, joking aside, I can tell you that the weak point on the
> zetec is the rod bolts. When kids hop up focii and remove the rev
> limiter for lower 1/4 times and better street racing performance, the
> first thing that fails is the rod bolts go and then they do indeed
> throw rods. ARP makes replacements rod bolts, but IMO they aren't
> advisable unless there is a genuine need to do it... you open anything
> like that up and you usually end up inviting more problems to the
> party than the problems you've just bounced. You won't have this
> issue in a vanagon though, nobody is revving to 8 or 9 grand and
> holding it through 3 gears...
>
> flamesuit on yet again,
>
> Jim Akiba
>
> On 7/12/07, Jake de Villiers <crescentbeachguitar@gmail.com> wrote:
> > And more specifically;
> >
> > SVX - 14
> >
> http://www.google.ca/search?num=50&hl=en&safe=off&q=svx+%22threw+a+rod%22&btnG=Search&meta=
> >
> > EJ22 - 11
> >
> http://www.google.ca/search?num=50&hl=en&safe=off&q=EJ22+%22threw+a+rod%22&btnG=Search&meta=
> >
> > EJ25 - 12
> >
> http://www.google.ca/search?num=50&hl=en&safe=off&q=EJ25+%22threw+a+rod%22&btnG=Search&meta=
> >
> > Hmmmmm, the EJ25 is exactly the same as the Zetec...............:)
> >
> > On 7/12/07, Jake de Villiers <crescentbeachguitar@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > Using your methodology.
> > >
> > > VW - 2670 hits
> > >
> http://www.google.ca/search?num=50&hl=en&safe=off&q=vw+%22threw+a+rod%22&btnG=Search&meta=
> > >
> > >
> > > Ford - 8150
> > >
> http://www.google.ca/search?num=50&hl=en&safe=off&q=ford+%22threw+a+rod%22&btnG=Search&meta=
> > >
> > >
> > > GM - 6840
> > >
> http://www.google.ca/search?num=50&hl=en&safe=off&q=gm+%22threw+a+rod%22&btnG=Search&meta=
> > >
> > >
> > > Toyota - 5340
> > >
> http://www.google.ca/search?num=50&hl=en&safe=off&q=toyota+%22threw+a+rod%22&btnG=Search&meta=
> > >
> > >
> > > BMW - 2550
> > >
> http://www.google.ca/search?num=50&hl=en&safe=off&q=bmw+%22threw+a+rod%22&btnG=Search&meta=
> > >
> > >
> > > Mercedes - 2890
> > >
> http://www.google.ca/search?num=50&hl=en&safe=off&q=mercedes+%22threw+a+rod%22&btnG=Search&meta=
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Makes Subaru look pretty good, doesn't it? 'Zetec' is extremely
> specific
> > > and a newer design, whereas Subaru has been selling cars in North
> America
> > > for more than 25 years.
> > >
> > >
> > > "There are lies, there are damned lies, and there are statistics."
> > > Benjamin Disraeli
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On 7/12/07, TC <trclark@shaw.ca> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > >
> http://www.google.ca/search?num=50&hl=en&q=subaru+%22threw+a+rod%22
> > > > > hmm 50 of 1720
> > > > > ....
> > > > > /me looks over at the zetec camp
> > > > > http://www.google.ca/search?num=50&hl=en&q=zetec+%22threw+a+rod%22
> > > > >
> > > > > hmm 12 hits
> > > > in totals
> > > > > very un-scientific :)
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > ok looks like you more likely to get struck by lightening that have
> a
> > > > zetec
> > > > dump a rod
> > > > but on the other hand you can in golf in a lightening storm if you
> > > > sub-driven ,
> > > > but you might nned a rollback get home :)
> > > > har har
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > Jake
> > > 1984 Vanagon GL
> > > 1986 Westy Weekender "Dixie"
> > > www.crescentbeachguitar.com
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Jake
> > 1984 Vanagon GL
> > 1986 Westy Weekender "Dixie"
> > www.crescentbeachguitar.com
> >
>
--
Jake
1984 Vanagon GL
1986 Westy Weekender "Dixie"
www.crescentbeachguitar.com
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