Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2007 23:10:23 -0400
Reply-To: Benny boy <huotb@VIDEOTRON.CA>
Sender: Vanagon Mailing List <vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com>
From: Benny boy <huotb@VIDEOTRON.CA>
Subject: Re: Inside a Subi engine EJ22
What is the point of your first question?
Is it important? crucial?
The 2.5L subi is more heavy, how i now, i can't lift this one alone :-)
How much more... me i don't care at all! What i can tell you is it doesn't
change the handling at all on dry pavement.. of course!
Winter! i don't care , i don't drive a 20 yo van in winter.
As for your last question! Do some research! Subi engine have been in
Vanagon for a long long time, even is old VW Bus's. Why, again, they are
boxer type engine, flat four, they fit there like a glove. Some vanagon have
300k miles 2.2 Subi in there, i guest that some are tired. I should know, we
just did one today, refresh the cooling system and exhaust system. Engine do
go wrong sometime, that is life, if you think that a Vanagon with a Subi is
perfection, no, it is not... the rest of the can still fall appart! If you
are still unsure, sell your van, get an Honda Accord and a tent trailer...
you should be fine now.
So if some of those old timer Subi folks have decided to go with a ZTEC or
Tico, good for them, it's fresh air, new stuff.
One thing that many of you, not to say all, don't understand is that only
lately a Subi conversion was done so perfectly. Thank to company like
Kenedy, Small Car and Vanaru. So very old conversion were done poorly, even
scary, like the one we upgrated today... that engine as been in a vanagon
for 170k miles... and it's still going strong at 160psi all around.
So stop those thread about all that old lady talk... you make me laugh.
When any of you will be ready to have a solid Subaru engine conversion in
the back of your van... like an 2005, 2006 or even a 2007 Fly by wire,
variable valves timing engine with 5-10k miles on it, call Hans at Vanaru...
i can also help.
I'm driving a Subaru vanagon van each day since 2 months, i'm not even
telling how frigging happy i am... you have no idea! i just reach 4000 miles
on it and yea, i have nothing to complaint about, nothing! Believe me, if i
didn't like something, you would all know.
Now stop asking and dreaming, go get 8-9k$ and have one :-) you will find
stupid reason to drive your van each day!
Ben
http://www.benplace.com/85westy_2_mecanique2.htm
ps.: i love this list, i love to help in any way i can, i still work hard to
save our old VW boxer engine... but there is new path, and i love those one
and yes i will talk about them... if this is a problem here, tell me so, i
will stop and go elsewhere.
On Thu, 12 Jul 2007 19:48:37 +0000, Todd Last <rubatoguy@COMCAST.NET> wrote:
>I wonder if the extra weight of the Subie motor yields better handling in
inclement conditions.
>It is often lamented that the near 50/50 weight distribution makes the
(non-syncro) vans mediocre handlers in the snow. I wonder if anyone with a
Subie conversion can comment on foul weather handling vs. the stock wbx motor.
>
>And just out of curiosity, what are the perceived benefits from changing a
Subie motor to a Ztec.
>Are the Subie motors that short lived?
>
>
>
>Todd
>'88 Westy
>
>
>
> -------------- Original message ----------------------
>From: Jim Akiba <syncrolist@BOSTIG.COM>
>> In short, yes.
>>
>> Here are the weights we measured with our first re-conversion:
>>
>> 86 Pass syncro, nothing else changed but the conversion, and both
>> equipped with AC.
>>
>> was 4280lbs w/ ej22
>> now 4220lbs w/ zetec
>>
>> Since the zetec is about 30-40 lbs heavier than the wbx setup, this
>> makes the ej22 90-100 heavier than stock.
>>
>> Our second subie to zetec re-conversion is happening next week, it is
>> an auto, and we'll also have before and after scale weights to
>> compare.
>>
>> Jim Akiba
>>
>> On 7/12/07, David Kao <dtkao0205@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> > Ok, a probably stupid question to big guys. Is subi engine heavier
>> > than VW stock? It looks it has more metal than VW stock has. I am
>> > more interested in an ej25. It has even more metal than ej22.
>> > Ej25 are available for slightly over $1k here.
>> >
>> > Now if it is heavier and it is in the back will my westy look funny
>> > because the front end will want to go up than go forward when the
>> > rear end pushes?
>> >
>> > David
>> >
>> >
>> > --- benoit <huotb@VIDEOTRON.CA> wrote:
>> >
>> > > Men, the fun part as not began... splitting the core, but saldy, this
>> > > one will not be the one, it's to solid! i won't loose time in a
>> > > perfectly good running engine. It's funny how the part guy was lost at
>> > > the Subatu dealer when i ask about crank and rod bearing!!! he said, we
>> > > never sell those, they never go wrong!!! ha ha ha....
>> > >
>> > > But if you have rebuilt/ work on 3.3, everything should look similar!
>> > > the EG33 is basicaly a bigger 2.2!!!!
>> > >
>> > > 2.2 are for kids... he he he, the SVX is for big Sycro guys!!!!
>> > >
>> > > Cheers, Ben
>> > >
>> > > dylan friedman wrote:
>> > >
>> > > > Ben,
>> > > > Not only do you do good work, you document it so well.
>> > > > Thanks for the effort.
>> > > > I have rebuilt numerous EG33 engines, but never have seen a 22 close
>> > > > up as you show.
>> > > > Nice job!
>> > > >
>> > > > dylan
>> > > >
>> > > > Benny boy <huotb@VIDEOTRON.CA> wrote:
>> > > >
>> > > > Like i said earlier, here a some interesting picture (side by side
>> > > > with a VW
>> > > > engine), well, for those who like engine... for the other one, go
>> > > > camping,
>> > > > he he he.
>> > > >
>> > > > http://www.benplace.com/subaru_ej22.htm
>> > > >
>> > > > Cheers, Ben
>> > > > http://www.benplace.com/vw2.htm
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > >
>> >
>> >
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>> >
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