Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2007 14:32:09 -0700
Reply-To: David Kao <dtkao0205@YAHOO.COM>
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From: David Kao <dtkao0205@YAHOO.COM>
Subject: Re: Inside a Subi engine EJ22
In-Reply-To: <vanagon%2007071223125120@GERRY.VANAGON.COM>
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--- Benny boy <huhuotbIVIDEOTRONA> wrote:
> What is the point of your first question?
>
> Is it important? crucial?
>
> The 2.5L susubis more heavy, how i now, i can't lift this one alone :-)
> How much more... me i don't care at all! What i can tell you is it doesn't
> change the handling at all on dry pavement.. of course!
> Winter! i don't care , i don't drive a 20 yo van in winter.
Benny,
While you may feel that you don't care, a bad idea in my opinion, many others
may think differently. People are different. Everyone has different purpose,
different criteria, different need and different affordability for a subi
conversion or any conversion.
>
> So stop those thread about all that old lady talk... you make me laugh.
It isn't old lady talk, Benny. It's called brain storming, It's not joke.
>
> When any of you will be ready to have a solid Subaru engine conversion in
> the back of your van... like an 2005, 2006 or even a 2007 Fly by wire,
> variable valves timing engine with 5-10k miles on it, call Hans at VaVanaru.
> i can also help.
>
> I'm driving a Subaru vavanagonan each day since 2 months, i'i'mot even
> telling how frigging happy i am... you have no idea! i just reach 4000 miles
> on it and yea, i have nothing to complaint about, nothing! Believe me, if i
> didn't like something, you would all know.
>
> Now stop asking and dreaming, go get 8-9k$ and have one :-) you will find
> stupid reason to drive your van each day!
I will give you and everyone else a wake up call now. 3 members of my family
are lawyers. One of them actually is a dean of a law school. I can't help it
to think about this and I thought I should share it here with everyone.
Let me ask you, did you talk to your car insurance company before doing the
conversion? Or at least did you tell them about your biggy EJ25 or V8 big block
whatever it is after you did it? If you did not it's not too late now. If you
run into an accident you may wish you never heard of a subi conversion.
Especially if you do a bigger more powerful conversion you really want your
insurance company know about it and put it down in the policy for you. A vanagon
is not a van designed to out run others at 80 MPH or faster. Its handling
wasn't designed for a bigger engine. When an accident happens all fingers
may point at your subi engine. Even if you get your policy written down for
your big conversion all fingers will still point at you if you run into a
liability bigger than your policy can handle.
Besides insurance issue, not everyone has the need of going faster in a westy
or a vanagon. Speed is actually against life, the slower the better. I agree that
while many may enjoy from more power but for many others greater power is not desired.
The greatest advantage of using a stock engine is it is cheap to repair and it
is reasonably durable. In my opinion a wasserboxer mechanic is under challenged.
One of the reasons people still drive vanagons is it is easy to repair. A subi
conversion changes that and for some it is not desired.
One example, an EJ25 from a late model year of Subaru would be a nightmare for
the conversion. You would have to have the 3-way catalytic system transplanted
into the vanagon. When the OBD2 system calls for an error code you would be
sorry and you would wish you never heard of the conversion. Been there. Did not
do it. It was covered by federal mandated warranty. The bill from a VW dealer
would have been $3k for parts for my Passat V630V which at one point called out
2 such OBD2 error.
Besides that,
If I want speed, my Passat can out run your subi vanangon any time. 80 MPH at
3000 RPM is just easy cruising speed. I could go to 6000 and stay there for
hours. At that speed your subi van will be belly up guaranteed. For a vanagon or
a westy speed or power from a conversion is not everything. It's not old lady
talk when people give reasons why they dislike it. Easy enough.
Friday, isn't it? Have a great weekend.
David
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