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Date:         Sun, 8 Jul 2007 20:31:13 -0400
Reply-To:     Mike <mbucchino@CHARTER.NET>
Sender:       Vanagon Mailing List <vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com>
From:         Mike <mbucchino@CHARTER.NET>
Subject:      Re: Fire Sleeve was: Re: Steel Braided Fuel Lines?
Comments: To: Jake de Villiers <crescentbeachguitar@GMAIL.COM>
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What is meant here, is true stainless steel braided hose with teflon inside (expensive!), not 'racerboy' fake woven stainless covers (cheap!) over regular rubber hose or the like.

Fire sleeve (expensive!) is unnecessary in this application, but if you've got money to burn.....

A good system has all steel lines with threaded fittings, only using short hoses (w/ threaded ends) where necessary when joining a fixed location to a location that is subject to movement; ie engine bay-to-engine.

As you can see, a VW Vanagon does not have a 'good' fuel system, hence lots of rubber hose (cheap) and plastic fittings (cheap), all of which is typically overlooked and neglected.

Would you trust running the same rubber fan belt daily for 25 years? Why would you take a chance with running a high pressure rubber fuel hose daily for 25 years? Think about it...........

Mike B.

----- Original Message ----- From: "Jake de Villiers" <crescentbeachguitar@GMAIL.COM> To: <vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM> Sent: Sunday, July 08, 2007 3:12 PM Subject: Re: Fire Sleeve was: Re: Steel Braided Fuel Lines?

> The stainless braid is good for protecting the rubber hose from mechanical > damage and the fire sleeve will protect the hose from flames, but both > will > prevent you from inspecting the integrity of the hose itself. > > Great stuff for race cars which won't be using the same lines 10 years > from > now but perhaps not so appropriate for a long-term installation. > > On 7/8/07, Robert Fisher <refisher@mchsi.com> wrote: >> >> I ran across something called a 'fire sleeve' for fuel lines. It's >> apparently supposed to protect the lines from heat (in race cars), >> whereas >> the problem with the lines in the Vanagons appears to be more a matter of >> failure under pressure due to deterioration, age, improper clamping and >> so >> on. However I was wondering if anyone has any experience or knowledge >> about >> this stuff and wanted to offer an opinion as to whether it might be a >> good >> idea in our vans? >> >> Cya, >> Robert >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Robert Stewart" <robertmstewart@MAC.COM> >> To: <vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM> >> Sent: Sunday, July 08, 2007 10:59 AM >> Subject: Steel Braided Fuel Lines? >> >> >> > Does anyone know if installing steel braided fuel lines has been done >> > by anyone, or this would be the end all best solution to this never >> > ending problem? >> > >> > If you have any info let me know. >> > >> > >> > Robert >> > -- >> > Rob >> > NYC/Bloomingburg NY >> > 88 Wolfsburg, Silver >> > 222,225 miles - automatic >> > AIM: rmstewart@mac.com >> > > > > -- > Jake > 1984 Vanagon GL > 1986 Westy Weekender "Dixie" > www.crescentbeachguitar.com >


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