Date: Sat, 14 Jul 2007 09:36:06 -0700
Reply-To: Rob <becida@COMCAST.NET>
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From: Rob <becida@COMCAST.NET>
Subject: Re: Inside a Subi engine EJ22
In-Reply-To: <61.66904.qm@web82708.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
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To be honest I'm not sure what this whole thing is about. If you like
the VW engine than by all means keep it. I don't care.
I have over 31k on my conversion in the last 15 months and I'm happy with it.
It cost me less than a new engine would have cost, it fits and looks
like it belongs there, there is no more work on anything else because
of the engine (brakes, trans, CVs), it's more modern and better
engineering, I can drive like everyone else on the road and it's
STILL a vw bus.
I guess "costs less and works better" about covers it for me.
"Costs less and works better" (in MY experience) is good place to stop <g>.
Later,
Rob
becida@comcast.net
Just driving and smiling (everyday) in his latest VW bus in western Washington
At 7/14/2007 12:10 AM, David Kao wrote:
>--- Rob <becida@COMCAST.NET> wrote:
>
> > >BTW, if you drive with a 200HP conversion count on swapping the tranny
> > >too
> >
> > Not true from what I've seen on this and the subaruvanagon list. How
> > many people are running 200+hp engines in their Vanagons? I have seen
> > one once but I know there are more around...
>
>Pardon me. I do not convert and I do not know exactly the numbers. But
>if you read Beeny's posts you got the impression. But now he is saying he
>only drive at 70MPH. I could do that with my old WBX too. I get to keep
>some money in my pocket instead of in his...
>
> >
> > >That's another $1.5k. Also count on brake work per 20k miles or less.
> > >With WXB my front brake pads (OEM) last less than 30k already.
> They probably
> > >will fall apart if you don't replace them every 20k.
> > >
> > >Oh, don't forget CV joints. They will see more beating from the
> 200HP engine.
> >
> > Another not true from what I've seen on the lists.
>
>I replaced my brake pads about every 25k miles. I use OEM pads. Did
>you do your
>own brake work? Did you use OEM pads? With more power you will drive faster
>and you will brake harder too. What is not ture in it? If you don't
>drive faster
>why not keep the WXB engine?
>
> > >But of course you do get the thrill of that power. Keep in mind
> most if not
> > >all Toyota and Honda vans and SUVs still will out run your subi
> at any time.
> >
> > What in the world makes you think folks put a better engine in a
> > Vanagon so they can race them? A better engine allows you to merge
> > onto a road like all the rest of the cars, hell it's still a VW bus!
>
>OK so why spend $5k for an EJ22 to just drive at a same 65 MPH as we
>WXB owners
>do? I am trying to say even if you spend $9k for an EJ25 you will still be out
>run by those cars regardless you can or can ot race. Regardless you
>want or you
>do not want to race.
>
> >
> > I can't talk for ANYONE but myself, I have driven a VW bus for all
> > these years because I like to. I feel "comfortable" in it.
> > My cars are not investments, they are a way to get around,
> > transportation. In a VW bus I get around with "class", with the
> > Subaru 2.2 in my current VW bus I get not only "class" but I can
> > drive with the rest of the traffic.
>
>Yes, totally agree. You get all that with or without a subi. I just don't see
>justification for $5k for my vanagon that worths only $1k. I am not
>syaing you
>can't justify your subi. I only said I can't justify it for me.
>
> >
> > It's not about money, it's not about race cars, it's not about class
> > ... For me, it's about feeling "right".
>
>Yes, it's about money. I get to keep the mony and I still enjoy no
>less than you
>do driving the Vanagon.
>
> >
> > This thread has been really interesting in seeing some on the
> > different folks "outlook" on this subject.
>
>Yes, please keep an open mind that not everyone wants or needs a subie.
>
>David
>
>
>
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