Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2007 21:52:42 -0700
Reply-To: David Kao <dtkao0205@YAHOO.COM>
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From: David Kao <dtkao0205@YAHOO.COM>
Subject: Re: Inside a Subi engine EJ22
In-Reply-To: <vanagon%2007071400084931@GERRY.VANAGON.COM>
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OK you dump the wasserboxer and fit it with a subi. But you still have
a lot of other stuff that are still the same old things. Won't you feel
those parts are even more difficult to find?
BTW, if you drive with a 200HP conversion count on swapping the tranny
too. That's another $1.5k. Also count on brake work per 20k miles or less.
With WXB my front brake pads (OEM) last less than 30k already. They probably
will fall apart if you don't replace them every 20k.
Oh, don't forget CV joints. They will see more beating from the 200HP engine.
But of course you do get the thrill of that power. Keep in mind most if not
all Toyota and Honda vans and SUVs still will out run your subi at any time.
Isn't there a saying early in this list: Driving a Vanagon is you don't have
to drive in the fast lane to keep cool?
Ha ha Friday is good. Enjoy the ride whatever kind beast it is.
David
David
--- Benny boy <huotb@VIDEOTRON.CA> wrote:
> Robert, like i am trying to show everyone as hard as i can...
> Up north, here, i have to deal with stuff like that each day:
> http://www.benplace.com/maritime2007/odd_dead2.jpg
>
> Here you see an injector, but imagine the rest of that van!!!
> many parts for 1.9L are discontinued, crucial parts! ok, for now, i have
> good frinds in southern states that help me with good used parts... but for
> how long will that last??? lately, Worldpac/Carquest (one one the biggest
> part suplier in NA) as many Vanagon parts NLA (no longer available), Even
> Altrom/NAPA also. So for me, it's getting harder and harder AND MORE
> EXPENSIVE THAN EVER!!!
>
> So yes, i agree, but not in 10 years, sorry to say... here where i live, in
> Westy wonderland, Vanagon camper that not so long ago were selling fast and
> hight... are NOT selling good this year, people are going for Eurovan,
> Eurovan have drop considerably under 20K, even 15K. So hight end Vanagon may
> have a market because they are roomier and more charming but things are
> changing, i can feel it. For me, the Eurovan is an horrible van mechanicaly,
> men ho men, removing an engine is quite something.
>
> This as nothing to do with conversions. it's just a fact about Wasser engine
> and the van itself! Same goes for Air-cool Vanagon and most type2 Westy
> (72-79), i had to wait 2 weeks lately for a 79 exhaust part.
>
> Ben
>
>
> On Fri, 13 Jul 2007 20:45:03 -0700, Robert Fisher <refisher@MCHSI.COM> wrote:
>
> >I have to wonder if the real question isn't whether there will be any real
> >choice in say, 10 years. It's apparent that more and more people that intend
> >to have their vans that long are opting for a conversion. As this continues
> >to happen and the group of active WBXs continues to dwindle there will come
> >a time when it is no longer economically feasible for WBXer parts makers to
> >do so, and so those who still have the engine will be competing for an
> >ever-shrinking pool of parts, used or otherwise (not to mention capable
> >mechanics and so on). At some point anything resembling a realistic support
> >structure for the WBX will collapse.
> >By then it'll be down to those that'll be buried in their vans... and
> >everyone else. : )
> >
> >Cya,
> >Robert
> >
>
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