Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2007 18:50:55 -0400
Reply-To: Kenneth Wilford <kenwilfy@COMCAST.NET>
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From: Kenneth Wilford <kenwilfy@COMCAST.NET>
Subject: Re: What's the difference???
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TJ,
You can see the difference on my webpage that shows my line drawing of
the coolant system for the 2.1l:
http://www.vanagain.com/21lchc.htm
Both part numbers are clearly listed along with corresponding numbers on
the line drawing. As you can see
you are talking about part number 025121171 which is 38 on the chart.
The picture shows a rough
drawing for what it is, a small 90 degree piece of pipe that attaches to
a short hose and then another
piece of pipe which runs under the engine main pulley.
The other part number is 025121160D which is number 41 on the chart.
This is a metal flange with a small nipple sticking out of the center of
it that
is below the power steering pump. They are two different parts.
I can kind of understand some of the confusion because both were once
made of
plastic by VW and now are only available in steel (praise God!). They
are also
both on the same general area on the engine. However one look at the
drawing and you can easily see a difference and see exactly where
they are located on the engine.
I even have a picture of the 160D flange on my webstore (although a
small one). The other part has a link to the
line drawing for clarification. I know the Vanagon coolant system can
be confusing, that is why I
made the line drawings (because the dealer parts pictures are confusing
too). Print them out and put a
copy in your Bentley for future reference.
Hope this helps,
Ken Wilford
John 3:16
www.vanagain.com
TJ Hemrick wrote:
> OK, here's a stumper for ya. I'm looking up parts for a customers
> car. My dad taught me well and said, NEVER go to the parts store
> without the old part. So being a good boy, I take the part home
> (luckily VW put the number on it) and put in the computer (Site 1) and
> out pops this: 025121171 Coolant Flange Metal elbow/flange on
> passenger side of engine block (attaches to coolant hose). Also
> replaces plastic version. So I start digging around a different web
> site (Site 2) and I come across this: 025121160D 86-92 2.1l Vanagon
> Coolant Hose Flange for Passenger Side Head (2.1l) Metal. This is
> the coolant hose flange that is on the passenger side head on a 2.1l
> Vanagon (syncro too) right by the power steering pump. It is number 41
> on the coolant hose chart. The original one may be plastic but this
> new one is metal. Now at first glance, I know your saying, "Duh,
> the part numbers are different" but theirs a little voice in your head
> saying, hmnnn, the descriptions are the same and the location
> matches.... So, I do a cross check of the same numbers on both web
> sites:
>
> Site one 025121160D Coolant Flange Right Head, 2.1L Vanagon
> Site two 025121171 83-85 1.9l Vanagon Small Coolant pipe between
> block and short hose for 83.5-91 Vanagon. Small Coolant pipe between
> block and short hose on passenger side of engine.
>
> Now, that last entry does have some discrepancies (83-85 or 83.5-91?
> and how could it be 1.9 and be for a 91?) Regardless, they appear to
> be the same flange for the cooling system but part numbers are
> different but items SEEM to be the same. I don't have EKTA but don't
> know if it will help. This is NOT about pitting these two sites
> against each other. So don't even go there! Aside from a simple typo
> in the last entry to make things extra hard to sort out, does ANYONE
> know what the difference is? Yes, their is a substantial difference
> in price. Ben, Ron, Frank, Benny (CA), Ken, and a few others in the
> business whom I've forgotten your names, got any input? BTW van in
> the shop that needs it is a 91.
>
> Thanks,
>
> TJ
>
> 87 Syncro
> 87 Wolfie
>
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