Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2007 23:11:01 -0500
Reply-To: Jeff Palmer <jpalmer@MTS.NET>
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From: Jeff Palmer <jpalmer@MTS.NET>
Subject: Re: Smart Car..Wow.. NVC
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Sure there are lots of cars less expensive than the Smart, but they
are cheap pieces of crapola. The Smart is a solid car. I'm sure in
the world there are lots of little cars with two seats strapped to
the engine for less, but they don't have MB quality.
You really can't compare this to any of the cars you're listing.
Smart cars get twice the fuel economy. They're cheaper to operate
than any of the vehicles you listed. In the long run, you will save
money.
I also like hybrid cars but for my money (what little I have) i
prefer diesel technology. These cars are all over Winnipeg, where
you could easily lose one in a pothole or snow-filled ditch in the
country. Never heard of that happening though. Their website used
to feature videos on snow-worthiness and crash testing, not sure if
it still does.
Being green isn't being smug, it's being responsible.
Jeff
On 19-Jul-07, at 7:10 PM, BJ Feddish wrote:
> I'm just stating an opinion here. I think $17K is a rip-off for a
> tiny
> little car that has 2 seats strapped to an engine. Sorry, but as
> far as I'm
> concerned I can get allot more car for $17K. Just because it's
> "green"
> doesn't justify the high price. Unless you want to be even smugger
> than a
> Prius driver. You'd get no smug points for that here outside of
> Philly, just
> a t-bone into a guardrail by an SUV. Why not just get a scooter and a
> raincoat for $2K. So "real" and "regular" would mean a $17K Jetta,
> Honda
> Element, Mazda A3, etc.
>
> My point is the car costs too much for what you are getting.
>
> I also think $50K for an SUV is a joke too, that's my opinion. I
> can get 2
> "real" cars for that price, or half of a GoWesty Syncro Camper.
>
> Bryan
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: monte merrick [mailto:montemerrick@speakeasy.net]
> Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2007 7:51 PM
> To: BJ Feddish
> Cc: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
> Subject: Re: Smart Car..Wow.. NVC
>
> regular? real?
>
>
>
> If I have unjustly wrested a plank from a drowning man, I must restore
> it to
> him though I drown myself. - henry thoreau
>
> On 19 Jul 2007, , at 15:45, BJ Feddish wrote:
>
>> What is the point of buying one of these things? They cost as much as
>> a real
>> car and some real cars can be had for quite a bit less. I could see
>> them
>> being a good buy at $7K but $17K? Once again, why? Is this so I can
>> be even
>> smugger than a Prius driver and say "hey look at me, I'm saving the
>> planet."? The thing is ridiculously small and has no cargo room. A
>> Ford
>> Exterminator would take it out at 10 mhp.
>>
>> When VW came out with a ridiculously small car 50 years ago the point
>> was it
>> lasted a long time and the biggest issue was it was CHEAP. If VW had
>> tried
>> to sell those things in '49 for more than people were paying for
>> their
>> regular cars they would have been laughed out of the country. Same
>> goes for
>> the Honda CVCC.
>>
>> Geez
>>
>> Bryan
>>
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