Date:         Fri, 20 Jul 2007 22:19:13 -0700
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From:         BA <oddstray@ODDSTRAY.COM>
Subject:      Re: Anybody use one of these?
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On Fri, 20 Jul 2007 20:44:56 -0400, you wrote:

>>> The problem will be how to collect gray water from the bottom. The
>national parks I camped do not allow discharging gray water right on the
>spot. How do you volks do on this? <<
>
>I have a grey water collecting "tray" type thing made of rubber that goes at
>the bottom of the shower. It has a drain that connects to a hose.
>
>To be quite honest, I have it for show only for when the rangers show up.
>It is big bulky and hard to manage. Once it's filled with water and you
>start to pick it up to drain into the drain plug it becomes a big wet mess.
>Remember, you're inside the shower trying to do this.  Very impractical.  I
>wait until there are no rangers in sight and just dump the water out into
>the poison ivy which is the required campground foliage in state parks.
>
>Bryan

Yeah ... *sigh* ...

We do that with our shower.  And with our grey water, as long as it's
not completely manky.  But only when we can't find a "better" place
for it.

But ... imagine if many, many more people did the same thing.

So.  I'm balancing being out in the world and so affecting it against
being totally ecological in the world so my
great-great-great-grandkids can go out into a world in as good a
condition as I found it.

We (immigrants to this continent) don't seem to be doing very well at
it.  The First People's philosophy was, as I understand it, to not
leave any trace of one's inhabitance.  And looking at archeological
evidence (namely, lack thereof), I think they had some pretty good
habits!

On the third hand ... aaaargh! .... there are so many more of us
humans in the same square miles of earth ... how can we help but
affect it ...


(Don't even get me started on how we *so* *do* *not* belong colonizing
the moon until we learn not to f*ck up the planet we're currently
living on ... )


B&S
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