Date: Thu, 26 Jul 2007 23:34:19 -0400
Reply-To: Benny boy <huotb@VIDEOTRON.CA>
Sender: Vanagon Mailing List <vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com>
From: Benny boy <huotb@VIDEOTRON.CA>
Subject: Re: Fwd: Decisions,
decisions which conversion was: Upon seeing Bostig's handiwork
"""I've got a line on a 2.5 with 49,000 miles on it in Oregon...."""
That is a lot... :-) How about one with 856 miles, or 1267 miles, or 5603
miles or 8560 miles....
Move est my friend.
Ben
On Thu, 26 Jul 2007 19:05:36 -0700, Jake de Villiers
<crescentbeachguitar@GMAIL.COM> wrote:
>I'll second Dylan's modern nomination.
>
>Hans or John, its time you let Bostig document your 2.5 litre Subie
>install.
>
>Its time to walk the walk, to put your money where your mouth is, to uh
>stand up and be counted, to ask not what your country can do for your van
>but what your van can do for your country, gosh darn it, its your patriotic
>duty! :-)
>
>I can hardly wait - hurry up guys, I've got a line on a 2.5 with 49,000
>miles on it in Oregon..............
>
>On 7/26/07, dylan friedman <insyncro@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>> word to that!
>> chassis dyno or PINKS.
>>
>>
>> df
>>
>> Jim Akiba <syncrolist@BOSTIG.COM> wrote: Actually Hans, you or benny
>> should finally swing by Boston so we can
>> finally get real numbers for the 2.5 output for comparison on the
>> dyno, the offer has been outstanding for at least a year now! Crank
>> numbers from the factory are great, but as we've shown they do not
>> tend to equal "as installed in a vanagon" numbers. I agree though,
>> the 2.5 should have quite a bit more power than the stock zetec, not
>> just edging it out.. but I would like actual confirmation of exactly
>> how much so it can be compared without speculation. The 2.2L was a
>> great example of this, as it turns out a base zetec will accelerate
>> the same van faster than an ej22 even with it's additional .2 liters.
>> Partly because of lack of scavenging effect and lost efficiency in
>> cylinder filling because of the subie's boxer layout, and partly
>> because it weighs 60 lbs more. I'd love to measure what the SOHC 2.5
>> subie puts down so we all know what we're talking about.
>>
>> Jim Akiba
>>
>> On 7/26/07, Hans Achter wrote:
>> > Yes, either choice would be a huge improvement, and they are about the
>> same
>> > in ease of installation.
>> > The 2.5 subaru does a lot more than 'slightly edge out' the basic Zetec,
>> > it's a 165 hp engine vs 130 hp for the Zetec.
>> > -Hans
>> > http://www.vanaru.com
>> >
>> > ----- Original Message -----
>> > From: "David Clarkson"
>> > To:
>> > Sent: Thursday, July 26, 2007 9:25 AM
>> > Subject: Fwd: Decisions, decisions which conversion was: Upon seeing
>> > Bostig's handiwork
>> >
>> >
>> > > -----Original Message-----
>> > > From: Dvdclarksn@aol.com
>> > > To: easywind1975@HOTMAIL.COM
>> > > Sent: Wed, 25 Jul 2007 10:58 pm
>> > > Subject: Decisions, decisions which conversion was: Upon seeing
>> Bostig's
>> > > handiwork
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > I really have been impressed with Ben's testimonials of the Subaru
>> > > conversion and now looking at Bostig Engineering's homepage I am
>> equally
>> > > impressed with the Zetech conversion. My Westfalia was rebuilt (very
>> well
>> > > I might add by The Bug Shop in Blacksburg, Va.) at 178,000 miles and
>> now
>> > > is approaching 250k. I must be realistic and realize that while it's
>> > > running well that it probably can't be rebuilt to the same standards
>> again
>> > > and that either of the afore mentioned conversions would be a huge
>> > > improvement. It seems that the 2.5 Subaru engine would slightly edge
>> out
>> > > the most basic Zetech in horsepower. Both have OBD II functions and
>> > > probably get fairly close mileage. The Subaru would also be a bit more
>> > > affordable. The Zetech does offer more niceties and?features that are
>> an
>> > > improvement that would provide safeguards for the engine and increased
>> > > reliability in?what would be a?breakdown situation. So bottom line is
>> > > which engine would be?the best investment for reliability and value?
>> Has
>> > > anyone on the list owned and driven both of these in the same or
>> > > comparable vehicles???Is the Subaru an easier conversion as it would
>> > > appear? Any informed opinions out there? I hope that this decision
>> is?a
>> > > ways off for me but I feel that I will attempt an install of one of
>> these
>> > > two options. Thanks to all who respond.
>> > >
>> > > ?
>> > >
>> > > David Clarkson
>> > >
>> > > 90 Westfalia (not a traitor to the brand-just a realist with a desire
>> to
>> > > keep my vehicle on the road)
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
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>Jake
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