Date:         Wed, 25 Jul 2007 21:26:41 -0700
Reply-To:     David Kao <dtkao0205@YAHOO.COM>
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From:         David Kao <dtkao0205@YAHOO.COM>
Subject:      Re: Haynes manual (Re: Noobie Owner of 84 Westy Seeks Advice)
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The biggest problem of Bentley manuals is they don't tell you how things
work. They explain very little about troubleshooting tips. The Bentley manuals
are excellent, however, in telling you how to dismantle and re-assemble things
with specifications such as torques, size of the nuts and bolts, etc.

I spent a fortune for a 2001 Passat Bentley which is almost 3 inches thick.
It does not give anything other than how to take apart the whole car and put
it back together. It explains nothing how things work at all. If you have a
Passat or any recent VW cars and when you see the check engine light on you
will find nothing in the Bentley manual how to locate the defect. In fact
unless you have an OBD2 scanner you will never have any idea what is going
on whatsoever. Even if you are able to read out the error code and look up
the Bentley you will find a line or two of a statement saying what the error
code is. In this case the manual is close to be useless.

The Bentley manual for vanagons are more useful on the other hand. Vanagons
do not have OBD system.

David


--- Geza Polony <gezapolony@SBCGLOBAL.NET> wrote:

> Wes,
>
> This could be true. I've just discovered, time and again, that the Haynes is
> confusing and lacking in details, especially as concerns model changes--and
> their engine designations are all English and so don't correspond to what we
> have here. (Dude, where's my carburetor?)  I remember being stumped as I
> tried to follow the Haynes to set the throttle position switches. It wasn't
> until I got the Bentley that I realized why mine didn't look anything like
> that in the Haynes--the Haynes shows only the 2.1 integrated switch, and I
> have a 1.9 with the two separate switches. Nowhere is this mentioned in the
> Haynes, but it's quite clear in the Bentley. For one with no experience in
> Vanagons, I felt the Haynes was an exercise in frustration. Funny because it
> was pretty good with my Saab. As they say, YMMV.
>
> Perhaps a Haynes vs Bentley thread is in order?
>
>
> Geza
>




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