Date:         Fri, 27 Jul 2007 18:58:59 -0400
Reply-To:     Dennis Haynes <d23haynes57@HOTMAIL.COM>
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From:         Dennis Haynes <d23haynes57@HOTMAIL.COM>
Subject:      Re: How Hot is To Hott?
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The temp 2 sensor has nothing to do with gauge reading. The single wire
sensor near it is the gauge sensor. By any chance is the fuel gauge
reading higher than normal? If so you may have a bad gauge voltage
regulator or it is loose and losing the ground contact. It is located on
the back of the instrument cluster.

Dennis

-----Original Message-----
From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com] On Behalf Of
craig cowan
Sent: Friday, July 27, 2007 6:08 PM
To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
Subject: Re: How Hot is To Hott?

i did finally measure it at 200* at the hottest point on the engine after
driving around for a bit. But from what i understand, thats not even ALL
that hott. My guage is nearly maxed out. I'll try putting my old Temp 2
Sensor back on and seeing if that makes a difference.

-Craig
'85GL

On 7/27/07, Jake de Villiers <crescentbeachguitar@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> "No one expects the Spanish Inquisition."
>
> Its a Monty Python reference Scott.
>
> Watch it here;  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zO68fUMWx3g
>
> On 7/27/07, Scott Daniel - Shazam <scottdaniel@turbovans.com> wrote:
> >
> > Nice to see your comments.
> > ( but before I forget, say more about this 'spanish inquistion' thing
-
> I
> > don't get it yet .)
> >
> > well, there are Lots of weaknesses in vanagon cooling systems.
> > Just fundamentally, with so many parts, spread from one end of the van
> to
> > the other......
> > A very challenged cooling system, in general.
> >
> > Scott
> > www.turbovans.com
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Aristotle Sagan [mailto:killer.jupiter@gmail.com]
> > Sent: Friday, July 27, 2007 12:20 PM
> > To: Scott Daniel - Shazam
> > Subject: Re: How Hot is To Hott?
> >
> > There is one weak link in the system.
> >
> > The weak link to the system is the temp sender in the radiator. I went
> > through a couple in the 6 years I owned my 84. It is an easy
> > replacement part. Do it.
> >
> > The second.. There are two, two weak links in the system.
> >
> > The second weak link is the thermostat. I always ran without, no
> > matter what anyone said, the engine ran fin, got up to temp, etc. Be
> > aware, I live in san jose california. Not exactly Detroit for vaarying
> > weather conditions.
> >
> > The third... There are three, three weak links in the system.
> >
> > The third weak link is the water pump. Make sure your's isn't weaping.
> > Sure sign os a WP gone bad.
> >
> > The fourth... There are four, four weak links in the system.
> >
> > The fourth weak link is the pressure cap on the expansion bottle. This
> > bugger can cause wierder problems than any or all of the above. Make
> > sure yours is good.
> >
> > And remember, No one expects the Spanish Inquisition.
> >
> > tim in san jose
> >
> >
> > On 7/27/07, Scott Daniel - Shazam <scottdaniel@turbovans.com> wrote:
> > > That sounds just perfect for temp.
> > > And the 180 to 150 difference shows the radiator is doing what it
> > should.
> > > And the rad fan coming on at low speed when it should - all sounds
> > normal.
> > >
> > > It's the single contact sensor that operates the gauge.
> > > Trying another, or a new,  temp gauge sender seems indicated to me.
> > > Or put a resistor in series to calibrate your gauge.
> > > Scott
> > > www.turbovans.com
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com] On
> Behalf
> > Of
> > > craig cowan
> > > Sent: Friday, July 27, 2007 6:29 AM
> > > To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
> > > Subject: Re: How Hot is To Hott?
> > >
> > > I just tested it with a Temp gun. The pipe going to the radiator (in
> the
> > > engine bay) is reading a consistant 180-185* with the heaters on
(and
> > with
> > > the heaters off it didnt seem to change) yet the temp guage is still
> > clearly
> > > "HOTTTT". The return water from the radiator is about 150* and the
fan
> > is
> > > working (at least on low).
> > >
> > > I recently replaced both temp sensors, could that be it? TEMP 1 is
> what
> > > works the guage isnt it?
> > >
> > > Any help is appreciated.
> > >
> > > -Craig
> > > '85GL
> > >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Where ever you are, there you be. Unless you're driving my van, in
> > which case, you ain't got there yet.
> >
>
>
>
> --
> Jake
> 1984 Vanagon GL
> 1986 Westy Weekender "Dixie"
> www.crescentbeachguitar.com
>