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Date:         Sun, 29 Jul 2007 18:22:07 -0400
Reply-To:     Dennis Haynes <d23haynes57@HOTMAIL.COM>
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From:         Dennis Haynes <d23haynes57@HOTMAIL.COM>
Subject:      Re: CDN Tire: Two  6 volt vs One  12 volt battery question
Comments: To: Malcolm Stebbins <mwstebbins@YAHOO.COM>
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The Trojan T-105 has a 5 hour rate of 185 A/H, 225 A/H over the 20 amp rate. The T125 and T-145 have higher capacities in the same size case. The T-145 is 215-5 hour and 260 for 20.

Dennis

-----Original Message----- From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com] On Behalf Of Malcolm Stebbins Sent: Saturday, July 28, 2007 10:42 AM To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM Subject: CDN Tire: Two 6 volt vs One 12 volt battery question

Having read the post regarding Canadian Tire's battery sale, CDN Tire has 2 batteries that seem to be what I want/need:

http://www.canadiantire.ca/browse/product_detail.jsp?FOLDER%3C%3Efolder_id =1408474396673605&bmUID=1185573901792&PRODUCT%3C%3Eprd_id=845524443277145& assortment=primary&fromSearch=true and http://www.canadiantire.ca/browse/product_detail.jsp?FOLDER%3C%3Efolder_id =1408474396673605&PRODUCT%3C%3Eprd_id=845524443290779&bmUID=1185574219890& assortment=primary&fromSearch=true

If your browser breaks up those URLs, The specs are:

6 volt: $85 CDN - Features

* Deep-cycle 6 V battery can be used with solar panels as a source for stored energy when used

in conjunction with inverters * 390 minutes of reserve capacity (at 25 amps) * 150 Amp Hours (at 6 hours) * Also fits golf cart applications * 6-month manufacturer's warranty * 6-month free replacement

12 Volt:; $213 CDN Features

* Renewable energy deep cycle battery * 12V sealed AGM (Absorbed Glass Mat) deep cycle lead acid battery * Designed to be used with Xantrex PowerHub 1800 (11-1877) or as part of any battery bank for a renewable energy system * 100 ah at 100 hour rate

I know VERY little about electricity. but I do know that 2, 6 volts can = 12 volts.

So which is "better"? My intended application/use is:

Battery under rear seat (so no space limitations), to power all stock interior lights and my lap-top through an inverter, but NOT the Dometic fridge; I have a top loading Waeco compressor type fridge that draws, on average (at 70 Deg F) 1 amp per hour. I figure that 3 to 4 days of NOT running the van (to charge the batteries) will be about all I'll need.

I also plan to maybe add a solar panel to the top of my van, maybe a 2 or 3 amp panel.

I also have a SurePower 1315 and I called them and they said their unit would not care if it sees One 12 volt or Two 6-volt batteries. Cost is really NOT a factor, (but 2x$85 = $170, or $213) I want the best, more reliable, and longest running set-up.

So which is "better".................... I fear the answer will be "There are trade-offs...."

Malcolm (who barely understands watts = amps x volts, AC vs DC etc.)

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