Date:         Thu, 9 Aug 2007 08:33:54 -0400
Reply-To:     Dennis Haynes <d23haynes57@HOTMAIL.COM>
Sender:       Vanagon Mailing List <vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com>
From:         Dennis Haynes <d23haynes57@HOTMAIL.COM>
Subject:      Re: Engine installation book times
Comments: To: RAlanen@AOL.COM
In-Reply-To:  <c8b.1217b0cd.33ec4757@aol.com>
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Absolutley right. The book time does not cover excessive efforts, or machine
shop time, etc. Engine detailing, hose replacements, diagnostics, etc are
also adders. These extras though should be identified.

Dennis


>From: Frank Condelli <RAlanen@AOL.COM>
>Reply-To: RAlanen@AOL.COM
>To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
>Subject: Re: Engine installation book times
>Date: Thu, 9 Aug 2007 06:32:55 EDT
>
>In a message dated 08/08/2007 11:12:18 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
>LISTSERV@GERRY.VANAGON.COM writes:
>
>According to the Mitchell shop manual:
>
>" Engine Assembly R&I  and O/H. Level A Mechanic.
>
>Includes replace rings, main and rod  bearings, crankshaft and cam shaft.
>Remove cylinder ridge, grind valves and  tune engine minor".
>
>
>
>Air cooled Vanagon, 80-83, 16.9  hours.
>
>
>
>"Where AC interferes, add 1.0".
>
>"Auto trans, add  1.2".
>
>
>
>Water cooled is 21.1
>
>
>
>
>
>AND,  I bet this covers the time needed to remove, replace, repair rusted,
>seized,  corroded parts, finding the parts, cleaning of corroded, oil
>encrusted
>aluminium  parts.....NOT !  I work by time alone,  what it takes is what
>you
>get  charged for.  If you don't like that go somewhere else.  Working on
>ANTIQUE vehicles is not covered by any Mitchell manual.
>
>
>Cheers,
>
>Frank  Condelli
>Almonte, Ontario, Canada
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