Date:         Thu, 30 Aug 2007 08:27:05 -0700
Reply-To:     TJ Hannink <tjhannink@YAHOO.COM>
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From:         TJ Hannink <tjhannink@YAHOO.COM>
Subject:      Re: Vanagons For Sale/Phone Number Correction
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More than just the "Z" bed was furnished by Westfalia; the front seats would have been, since they share the same frame, padding and armrests as the Camper models. The middle left-side panel and folding table are also Westfalia items - they came straight out of the non-GL Camper model. Since the jumpseats, door and side panels shared the same upholstery as the seats, its likely they were part of an interior conversion package.

  A while back we discussed where we thought this interior conversion package was installed - I don't know if we ever reached a conclusion. It's possible the non-Camper models were sent to Westfalia for interior installation, but equally as possible that interiors were sent to VW for installation - who knows?

  Good luck,

  Tim

Mike Collum <collum@VERIZON.NET> wrote:
  Well ... it's just a matter of semantics. The "Z" bed was made by
Westfalia (hence the Westfalia tag) but the van isn't a Westfalia
"Conversion". Vanagon owners, as a group, don't call the non-poptop
weekenders "Westfalias".

Mike
'84 GL 7 passenger
'84 GL Westy
'85 GL Westy


Craig Morton wrote:
> Craig Morton wrote: Hey John,
>
> This 1987 Vanagon is a Westfalia and a Wolfsburg and does not have the pop top. I am not sure if they called it a Weekender or not but it matches the description. The Westfalia data plate is there as are the Wolfsburg badges. The owner says it is now as it was when purchased new. If it is not supposed to exist or is a rare model then it might be fun to run a check on the VIN. Jim has that and probably more details if it piques your fancy to investigate. Aren't Vanagons fun?
>
> I should add that I gave the incorrect home phone number for Jim. The correct number is 936-569-7781. The other number was to the county sheriff's office. Geez, what a mistake! And, again, the location is Nacogdoches, Texas, which is in East Texas.
>
> Craig
>
>
>
> John Bange wrote:
> >
>> westy=Westfalia
>> without a pop top = no pop top, i.e. there is no tent on top; some
>> Weekenders had them and some didn't as near as I can ascertain
>> Vanagons 2 & 3 are not Westfalias
>
>
> FWIW, I think SD's point was that Vanagon 1 is not a Westfalia either.
> There's no such thing as a Westfalia without a pop-top. Lots of non-Westy
> Vanagons came with Z-beds, tables, and rear facing seats.
>
> The primary confusion seems to come from the two uses of the term
> "weekender". One westy model was called the "Westfalia Weekender", which had
> a pop-top but no kitchen cabinetry. Some early Vanagons were sold with an
> added "weekender" package, which added a Z-bed in back, among other things.
> THis "weekender" package had nothing to do with Westfalia.
>
> --
> John Bange
> '90 Vanagon - "Geldsauger"
>
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TJ Hannink
Goldibox - 1987 Vanagon Camper, Wolfsburg Edition
1981 Bluebird Wanderlodge, FC-33SB
Des Allemands, Louisiana
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/wolfsburg_campers
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FC_wanderlodge

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