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Date:         Tue, 4 Sep 2007 04:02:15 -0500
Reply-To:     John Rodgers <inua@CHARTER.NET>
Sender:       Vanagon Mailing List <vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com>
From:         John Rodgers <inua@CHARTER.NET>
Subject:      Re: 84 Vanagon, will not shift into gear, Solved!
Comments: To: Gary Watts <fatmedia@GMAIL.COM>
In-Reply-To:  <7986F651-AB9D-4025-89E2-406053D6F5CE@gmail.com>
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Gary,

Keep a close eye on the fluid level. You may have a leak somewhere.

I had a similar problem with my 85 GL. The system, is designed so that if the fluid level gets low, the brake warning light comes on. If the van is new to you, or you have had it a very long time and not done this - do the following.

Bleed and flush ALL hydraulic lines. That includes both break and clutch lines. You will be amazed and the crude - and water - you will get out of the system.

When the fluid level gets low, the low fluid warning light will flash, and as more fluid is lost the light will come on and hold steady.

Since both brakes and clutch are operated from the same fluid tank, a safety factor was built in. Brakes are a safety item, so the clutch is the first thing to go as the fluid level drops. Then the brakes will follow as more fluid is lost. But the warning light is there to help prevent just such a problem.

The vehicle with a manual transmission can always be started, and driven, without the clutch working at all, due to the nature of the synchro mesh transmission. This was true of the beetles and loafs as well.

To start with no clutch, work the shifter and get it out of gear and into neutral, then work it into first gear. Engage the starter. There is enough troque in that starter to move the van with starter only. As soon as the engine starts, back off on the switch and let the starter disengage, but keep a little gas going so as not to stall the engine. Once you are rooling, there is a shift point for each gear, based on the engine speed. You kind of have to feel for it, but it does work. You can go through all four gears that way. Not recommended as regular practice, but it will get you home in an emergency.

Regards,

John Rodgers 88 GL Driver

Gary Watts wrote: > Thanks for everyone on the list that helped. The fluid was below > minimum. Once we put in the right amount of brake fluid, the clutch > worked again like a charm. I must say, that is the dumbest place I > have ever seen to put a place to put in fluid. :) I'll be heading > out this week to buy the repair book and will find lots of other > "interesting" things as well. > > -Gary > Kenmore, WA > >


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