Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2007 11:01:03 +1200
Reply-To: Andrew Grebneff <andrew.grebneff@STONEBOW.OTAGO.AC.NZ>
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From: Andrew Grebneff <andrew.grebneff@STONEBOW.OTAGO.AC.NZ>
Subject: Re: Whoa! H6 subie & Dieselboxer
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<blockquote type="cite" cite>Borrowed a friend's Outback with the 3.0
H6 in it for a weekend trip. Damn.<br>
I can't imagine having that in Totoro. That would be just
crazy! Quick up<br>
to about 4000 rpm and then, whhooooosh jet power until 6500. I
loved it.<br>
And that was an automatic. I was shifting myself but really
missed that<br>
clutch for launches. :-) Nice engine. Getting back
in the 91 Legacy 2.2<br>
will be hard. I am delaying giving the H6 back as long as I
can. Also. . .<br>
I know this is the place to ask, but I'm not sure if it's ok to,
but is<br>
anyone interested in a straight up trade: your old Vanagon for my
1991<br>
Subaru (donor?) wagon? I like the Subie, but I need my own
Van. My wife</blockquote>
<blockquote type="cite" cite>can't have all the fun.
Thanks!</blockquote>
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<div>Man, you need to find a cheap Alcyone SVX somewhere, and a KEP
kit. Find some reason that Ben Huot just HAS to spend some time near
you (tell him the local microbrewery is the best?) and you're away
laughing...</div>
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<div>The EG33 is of course an older design than the EZ30, but there's
no new tech in the newer engine itself, only in the management system.
The EG has cambelts, the EZ camchains; both of these have
disadvantages. The EG put out 240hp (a bit more or less, depending on
market). The first EZs put out about 214; later ones may put out a bit
more, I don't know. An aftermarket management system can tweak these
outputs by maybe 10-20hp. Some newer designs (like the acclaimed
Toyota 3.5 V6 in the 3rd-generation Estima/Previa) have these engines
beaten for specific power outputs.</div>
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<div>As to Subaru's use of "H" to denote a 6-boxer makes
about as much sense as VW calling a double-V a "W". Perhaps
less, given that W is confusing as the in Deutsch the letter is
pronounced "dopfel-fee". If the crossbar of the H represents
the crank, an H can only mean a four. There is no back-to-back
"E" that I know of in any alphabet. VW's "W" has
four banks of cylinders; again, no character exists to use. A true W
engine has one crank with THREE banks of cylinders, as seen in many
air-compressors, the Honda MVX250 and the odd prototype engine
(Honda's eg CX350).</div>
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<div>As to the diesel Subaru engine, what's the bet the fours are
going to be called ED? Or possibly D<i>x</i>... hopefully, now that
Toyota is majority sheraholder, Toyota's diesel gurus will have gone
over the Subaru design to pick out any weaknesses for preproduction
changes... but the secondhand owner can still expect cracking heads.
<http://www.autoblog.com/photos/subaru-boxer-turbo-diesel/176943/>
The engine appears to have unlined chromed bores similarly to
Kawasaki's Electrofusion & BMW's Nikasil of the 80s. Apparently
they will bolt right up to existing transmissions, which would not
bode well for those transmissions, which are suspect even with gas
engines.</div>
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