Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2007 19:48:58 -0400
Reply-To: Mike <mbucchino@CHARTER.NET>
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From: Mike <mbucchino@CHARTER.NET>
Subject: Re: Whoa! H6 subie & Dieselboxer
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Re: Whoa! H6 subie & Dieselboxer'H' refers to 'H'orizontally-opposed; not their own use, but in general automotive terms...........
Look in any blue book and you'll find mention of this.
Mike B.
----- Original Message -----
From: Andrew Grebneff
To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
Sent: Tuesday, September 04, 2007 7:01 PM
Subject: Re: Whoa! H6 subie & Dieselboxer
Borrowed a friend's Outback with the 3.0 H6 in it for a weekend trip. Damn.
I can't imagine having that in Totoro. That would be just crazy! Quick up
to about 4000 rpm and then, whhooooosh jet power until 6500. I loved it.
And that was an automatic. I was shifting myself but really missed that
clutch for launches. :-) Nice engine. Getting back in the 91 Legacy 2.2
will be hard. I am delaying giving the H6 back as long as I can. Also. . .
I know this is the place to ask, but I'm not sure if it's ok to, but is
anyone interested in a straight up trade: your old Vanagon for my 1991
Subaru (donor?) wagon? I like the Subie, but I need my own Van. My wife
can't have all the fun. Thanks!
Man, you need to find a cheap Alcyone SVX somewhere, and a KEP kit. Find some reason that Ben Huot just HAS to spend some time near you (tell him the local microbrewery is the best?) and you're away laughing...
The EG33 is of course an older design than the EZ30, but there's no new tech in the newer engine itself, only in the management system. The EG has cambelts, the EZ camchains; both of these have disadvantages. The EG put out 240hp (a bit more or less, depending on market). The first EZs put out about 214; later ones may put out a bit more, I don't know. An aftermarket management system can tweak these outputs by maybe 10-20hp. Some newer designs (like the acclaimed Toyota 3.5 V6 in the 3rd-generation Estima/Previa) have these engines beaten for specific power outputs.
As to Subaru's use of "H" to denote a 6-boxer makes about as much sense as VW calling a double-V a "W". Perhaps less, given that W is confusing as the in Deutsch the letter is pronounced "dopfel-fee". If the crossbar of the H represents the crank, an H can only mean a four. There is no back-to-back "E" that I know of in any alphabet. VW's "W" has four banks of cylinders; again, no character exists to use. A true W engine has one crank with THREE banks of cylinders, as seen in many air-compressors, the Honda MVX250 and the odd prototype engine (Honda's eg CX350).
As to the diesel Subaru engine, what's the bet the fours are going to be called ED? Or possibly Dx... hopefully, now that Toyota is majority sheraholder, Toyota's diesel gurus will have gone over the Subaru design to pick out any weaknesses for preproduction changes... but the secondhand owner can still expect cracking heads. <http://www.autoblog.com/photos/subaru-boxer-turbo-diesel/176943/> The engine appears to have unlined chromed bores similarly to Kawasaki's Electrofusion & BMW's Nikasil of the 80s. Apparently they will bolt right up to existing transmissions, which would not bode well for those transmissions, which are suspect even with gas engines.
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