Date: Sat, 8 Sep 2007 09:54:32 -0700
Reply-To: neil N <musomuso@GMAIL.COM>
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From: neil N <musomuso@GMAIL.COM>
Subject: Re: An engine transplant: ? (subie alterntaive) long post.
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I agree.
This has been pointed out before, but more problems than success
stories tend to be posted on conversion (and other) email lists.
And a SC on a 1.8? Wow! My gut feeling is that it might take "life"
out of the engine prematurely.
Just my tres "shady tree" mechanical .02 :)
Cheers,
Neil.
--
Neil Nicholson. 1981 Air Cooled Westfalia -
"Jaco" (Bustorius)
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On 9/8/07, Jake de Villiers <crescentbeachguitar@gmail.com> wrote:
> Fill your boots Don.
>
> There are as many different Subie transplant outcomes as there are
> transplanters. Lots of those guys have very little hot-rodding experience
> and their results are about what you would expect.
>
> There are also many successful and seamless conversions done that have
> become reliable and powerful daily drivers.
>
> I was going to send you a link to the Twin turbo Audi V8 with 6 speed
> Tiptronic page but it seems to be down........
>
> http://www.schornis.com/T3%20V8%204,2.htm
>
> Dream on! :)
>
>
>
> On 9/8/07, Don Hanson <dhanson@gorge.net> wrote:
> >
> > I like messing around with my vehicles to make em work better for me.
> >
> > While I am pretty happy with my current 84 partial camper and it's
> > transplanted 92 Cabriolet inline 4 motor, I keep looking. I've been
> > lurking
> > on the Subaru Yahoo list, toying with the idea of maybe doing a transplant
> > project sometime. But the more I read over there, the less I like the way
> > many of those projects seem to progress. Yes, when they are done and all
> > the glitches are worked through, their owners are almost 'evangelistic'
> > about their praise for their new motors. But, there seems to be an
> > uncounted number of potential quagmires to fall into, judging from the
> > posts
> > over there.
> >
> > That conversion (in any of it's possible permutations) does not often seem
> > to be anywhere near "plug-n-play", even when done by reputable specialty
> > shops..There are waaay too many posts about "how do you make a diagnostic
> > reader work on...." "What is the reason I get fault code_____?" "How do
> > you
> > defeat the_____" Where do you run the _____, on the EJ-xx motor, if you
> > happen to have the other_____?" stuff like that. Or stories of in and out
> > a
> > bunch of times with the motor, or of cross country trips by flatbed, back
> > to the shop to diagnose an odd-ball electrical glitch...Not very inviting
> > to
> > me, once I read a month of posts more carefully..
> > Then, a week ago, someone posted a website for a shop that does 1.8l
> > Turbo VW motor transplants into vanagons..for substantial money, but about
> > the $ame as a complete Subie conversion would probably run you. So I
> > started looking at those...~150 dependable HP from that motor, well proven
> > as dependable and available cheap.."Hmmm," thinks I..
> > I also have some buddies who've had very good luck supercharging their
> > Porsche waterpumper V8s . Recently, at a dyno day, I saw a VW Rabbit with
> > a
> > SC pulling 340Hp once...So I found this site below, with a full SC kit for
> > my Digifant II motor that I already have..Perhaps this is another way to
> > 'upgrade' the power of a Vanagon. Same basic motor as the VW 1.8L turbo.
> > But with the twin screw SC, no need to change much in the EMS, no turbo
> > lag,
> > about the same power output and just $3100, according to the website
> > below.
> > Superchargers have been used successfully for a long time...since the
> > '30s..And the 1.8 liter block and head can take the stress, since they go
> > a
> > couple of hundred thou with a turbo at 150hp..Not much more complex than
> > adding an air conditioning system..compressor, belts, ducting, maybe a
> > wastegate, maybe a knock sensor system..etc etc..
> > It would be nice to have the ability to take advantage of a break in
> > oncoming traffic to pass slow vehicles, without having to wait for the
> > break
> > to coincide with a downhill...It would be nice to go uphill at altitude
> > with
> > authority, or to have the capacity to tow a small trailer or to not worry
> > about stacking too many toys on the roof..
> > Just an idea..Ok you nay sayers..have at it..
> >
> >
> > http://www.bahnbrenner.com/vw_audi/BBM_Supercharger_Kits/BBM_Supercharger_Kit__Lysholm__MkII_1_8L_Digifant_II.html
> >
> > Don Hanson
> >
>
>
>
> --
> Jake
> 1984 Vanagon GL
> 1986 Westy Weekender "Dixie"
> www.crescentbeachguitar.com
>
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