Date: Sat, 8 Sep 2007 01:15:50 -0700
Reply-To: Stephen Grisanti <bike2vcu@YAHOO.COM>
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From: Stephen Grisanti <bike2vcu@YAHOO.COM>
Subject: Re: Volvo reliability , Bah Humbug
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I think that engine is the Peugeot-Volvo-Renault PRV
engine that was also used in the DeLorean. The
chop-top 262C is a rare bird.
Stephen
--- David Kao <dtkao0205@YAHOO.COM> wrote:
> Guess Friday isn't over yet. I have to talk about my
> Volvo too.
> What I have is a 1980 262C. In the 80's there were a
> lot of 240's.
> And there were some 260, 262 and 264's. Mine is a
> 262C. The letter
> C doesn't tell much about how special it is. It is
> made (or modified
> and assembled) in Italy by Bertone. Two door, 6
> cylinders and automatic.
> You have to look at it to realize that it is a
> different kind of Volvo.
>
> Unfortunately the V6 engine short lived. I mean very
> short lived. I purchased
> it used from a Volvo dealer when it was below 50k
> miles. After I added
> 30k+ miles the engine quit. Coolant leaked into oil.
> Major disaster.
> I had the head gaskets replaced. But the new gaskets
> lasted only a few
> months and collant leaked into oil again. I drained
> the coolant and changed
> the oil then put it into storage. Has been in
> storage for about 6 years
> now. I believe I need a new engine for it. Instead
> of rebuilding it, putting
> in a Japanese V6 engine probably makes more sense.
>
> Believe it or not, its chassis looks like a new car
> still. Shiny paint all
> over. Alloy wheels and square head lights. It looks
> really nice except the
> engine reliability was rather poor. I heard that the
> V6 engine was actually
> a French motor. It has wet cylinder liners similar
> to Vanagon's. I know
> the engine is still pretty rebuildable. But I would
> rather put in a Japanese
> v6 conversion. I would consider a small v8 if
> possible.
>
> David
>
>
> --- Scott Daniel - Shazam
> <scottdaniel@TURBOVANS.COM> wrote:
>
> > Ok, my two cents.
> > Having worked on volvo's for years.
> > 140's - good tough strong car - a bit much from
> the carburetor era.
> > 240 - they just will not die. The OHC B21F inline
> 4 starts in 1976
> > ....There are still countless 240's, mostly
> wagons, soldering around. Made
> > up to 92.....I don't' like them, but many do and
> they have many 100,00's of
> > thousands of miles in them.
> >
> > 740's - expensive to own once they get older
> unless you do your own work.
> > My personal 740 is an 88 Turbo Sedan - absolutely
> the best car I've ever
> > owned - a factory hot rod with special suspension
> and brakes to go with the
> > turbo - loaded with safety, performance, and
> luxury features. Bought it for
> > a few hundred bucks. Had to rebuilt everything in
> it from engine, to trans,
> > to rear end, all shocks etc. Goes 80 like it's
> going down hill, steers like
> > a fighter plane, and does not blow around in gusts
> at all. ABS brakes,
> > etc......LOVE that car, but you don't seem many of
> them on the roads anymore
> > - due to the expense of getting them repaired
> professionally when they get
> > old. I'm up to 217K miles.
> > Reliable as could be, AFTER every thing is up to
> spec and refurbished as
> > needed throughout.
> >
> > I 'wish' there was more 'volvo' in Vanagons.
> Very well made cars - volvos.
> > Bosch electricals and electronics. Big focus on
> crashworthiness and over
> > all safety.
> >
> >
> > The newer Volvos - fwd 850's and above .....a
> whole other world, more
> > complex, more 'modern' , not even related to
> traditional front engine, rear
> > drive volvo's.
> > And I think they 'like money' too much when they
> are above a hundred K to
> > 150K miles.
> > Scott
> > www.turbovans.com
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Vanagon Mailing List
> [mailto:vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com] On Behalf Of
> > neil N
> > Sent: Friday, September 07, 2007 6:23 PM
> > To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
> > Subject: Re: Volvo reliability , Bah Humbug
> >
> > The following is "said" with a PhriDaye kinda
> "bent".
> >
> > Ok. I'm not trying to start some kind of Swedish
> War here, ;) (Oh
> > yes. I am part Swede) but IMHO, almost any $1600
> car bought offa CL,
> > is likely going to cost the owner muchos $$ whilst
> doing a long,
> > heated, trip. And.,.....
> >
> > ..... being a former Volvo 140 series owner, but
> I'd have to say that
> > the Volvo 140 (and liekly the 240 series from what
> I've heard) had
> > solidly built/designed engines. They were also
> quite comfortable.
> > Plus, that wagon-o-mine was a great little hauler.
> At one time I
> > thought I'd "have it made" if I could keep my
> collection of Life-Gear
> > small enough to fit in that green wagon. Cha.
> Right! And I have truly
> > digressed.......
> >
> > I miss my old 145S wagon. It didn't have the
> electric OD, but it was a
> > good vehicle. I beat that thing silly, running it
> low on coolant,
> > revving it too high etc. and it finally developed
> a REALLY LOUD
> > intermittent "whack" in the engine. It actually
> ran fine. It just
> > whacked a little now and then. (eh..... I'll leave
> that one alone ;)
> >
> > Not trying to start a Volvo flame, but I guess I
> did rekindle an "old
> > flame" Volvo memory.
> >
> > Neil. The PartSwede.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On 9/7/07, Pensioner <al_knoll@pacbell.net> wrote:
> > > If one googles "The Frugal Road Trip New York
> Times" you can learn how to
> > > spend gobs of cash herding a decrepit OvLov
> across the fruited plain. Fun
> > > to read. Keep me away from vintage OvLovs.
> Rather have a Vanagon.
> > Wonder
> > > if Chris Dixon knows this guy?
> > >
> > > Vanagons rule most of the time.
> > >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Neil Nicholson. 1981 Air Cooled Westfalia -
> > "Jaco" (Bustorius)
> >
> > http://web.mac.com/tubaneil
> >
> > Please send fav Vanagon/Westfalia links to me at:
> > musomuso1963@hotmail.com
> >
>
>
>
>
>
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