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Date:         Sat, 8 Sep 2007 01:15:50 -0700
Reply-To:     Stephen Grisanti <bike2vcu@YAHOO.COM>
Sender:       Vanagon Mailing List <vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com>
From:         Stephen Grisanti <bike2vcu@YAHOO.COM>
Subject:      Re: Volvo reliability , Bah Humbug
Comments: To: David Kao <dtkao0205@YAHOO.COM>
In-Reply-To:  <663579.83081.qm@web82704.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
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I think that engine is the Peugeot-Volvo-Renault PRV engine that was also used in the DeLorean. The chop-top 262C is a rare bird.

Stephen

--- David Kao <dtkao0205@YAHOO.COM> wrote:

> Guess Friday isn't over yet. I have to talk about my > Volvo too. > What I have is a 1980 262C. In the 80's there were a > lot of 240's. > And there were some 260, 262 and 264's. Mine is a > 262C. The letter > C doesn't tell much about how special it is. It is > made (or modified > and assembled) in Italy by Bertone. Two door, 6 > cylinders and automatic. > You have to look at it to realize that it is a > different kind of Volvo. > > Unfortunately the V6 engine short lived. I mean very > short lived. I purchased > it used from a Volvo dealer when it was below 50k > miles. After I added > 30k+ miles the engine quit. Coolant leaked into oil. > Major disaster. > I had the head gaskets replaced. But the new gaskets > lasted only a few > months and collant leaked into oil again. I drained > the coolant and changed > the oil then put it into storage. Has been in > storage for about 6 years > now. I believe I need a new engine for it. Instead > of rebuilding it, putting > in a Japanese V6 engine probably makes more sense. > > Believe it or not, its chassis looks like a new car > still. Shiny paint all > over. Alloy wheels and square head lights. It looks > really nice except the > engine reliability was rather poor. I heard that the > V6 engine was actually > a French motor. It has wet cylinder liners similar > to Vanagon's. I know > the engine is still pretty rebuildable. But I would > rather put in a Japanese > v6 conversion. I would consider a small v8 if > possible. > > David > > > --- Scott Daniel - Shazam > <scottdaniel@TURBOVANS.COM> wrote: > > > Ok, my two cents. > > Having worked on volvo's for years. > > 140's - good tough strong car - a bit much from > the carburetor era. > > 240 - they just will not die. The OHC B21F inline > 4 starts in 1976 > > ....There are still countless 240's, mostly > wagons, soldering around. Made > > up to 92.....I don't' like them, but many do and > they have many 100,00's of > > thousands of miles in them. > > > > 740's - expensive to own once they get older > unless you do your own work. > > My personal 740 is an 88 Turbo Sedan - absolutely > the best car I've ever > > owned - a factory hot rod with special suspension > and brakes to go with the > > turbo - loaded with safety, performance, and > luxury features. Bought it for > > a few hundred bucks. Had to rebuilt everything in > it from engine, to trans, > > to rear end, all shocks etc. Goes 80 like it's > going down hill, steers like > > a fighter plane, and does not blow around in gusts > at all. ABS brakes, > > etc......LOVE that car, but you don't seem many of > them on the roads anymore > > - due to the expense of getting them repaired > professionally when they get > > old. I'm up to 217K miles. > > Reliable as could be, AFTER every thing is up to > spec and refurbished as > > needed throughout. > > > > I 'wish' there was more 'volvo' in Vanagons. > Very well made cars - volvos. > > Bosch electricals and electronics. Big focus on > crashworthiness and over > > all safety. > > > > > > The newer Volvos - fwd 850's and above .....a > whole other world, more > > complex, more 'modern' , not even related to > traditional front engine, rear > > drive volvo's. > > And I think they 'like money' too much when they > are above a hundred K to > > 150K miles. > > Scott > > www.turbovans.com > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Vanagon Mailing List > [mailto:vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com] On Behalf Of > > neil N > > Sent: Friday, September 07, 2007 6:23 PM > > To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM > > Subject: Re: Volvo reliability , Bah Humbug > > > > The following is "said" with a PhriDaye kinda > "bent". > > > > Ok. I'm not trying to start some kind of Swedish > War here, ;) (Oh > > yes. I am part Swede) but IMHO, almost any $1600 > car bought offa CL, > > is likely going to cost the owner muchos $$ whilst > doing a long, > > heated, trip. And.,..... > > > > ..... being a former Volvo 140 series owner, but > I'd have to say that > > the Volvo 140 (and liekly the 240 series from what > I've heard) had > > solidly built/designed engines. They were also > quite comfortable. > > Plus, that wagon-o-mine was a great little hauler. > At one time I > > thought I'd "have it made" if I could keep my > collection of Life-Gear > > small enough to fit in that green wagon. Cha. > Right! And I have truly > > digressed....... > > > > I miss my old 145S wagon. It didn't have the > electric OD, but it was a > > good vehicle. I beat that thing silly, running it > low on coolant, > > revving it too high etc. and it finally developed > a REALLY LOUD > > intermittent "whack" in the engine. It actually > ran fine. It just > > whacked a little now and then. (eh..... I'll leave > that one alone ;) > > > > Not trying to start a Volvo flame, but I guess I > did rekindle an "old > > flame" Volvo memory. > > > > Neil. The PartSwede. > > > > > > > > > > On 9/7/07, Pensioner <al_knoll@pacbell.net> wrote: > > > If one googles "The Frugal Road Trip New York > Times" you can learn how to > > > spend gobs of cash herding a decrepit OvLov > across the fruited plain. Fun > > > to read. Keep me away from vintage OvLovs. > Rather have a Vanagon. > > Wonder > > > if Chris Dixon knows this guy? > > > > > > Vanagons rule most of the time. > > > > > > > > > -- > > Neil Nicholson. 1981 Air Cooled Westfalia - > > "Jaco" (Bustorius) > > > > http://web.mac.com/tubaneil > > > > Please send fav Vanagon/Westfalia links to me at: > > musomuso1963@hotmail.com > > > > > > > ____________________________________________________________________________________ > Choose the right car based on your needs. Check out > Yahoo! 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