Date: Sat, 8 Sep 2007 09:25:12 -0700
Reply-To: David Kao <dtkao0205@YAHOO.COM>
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From: David Kao <dtkao0205@YAHOO.COM>
Subject: Re: Volvo reliability , Bah Humbug
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You are probably right. All these rare birds seem have short
lived because of this Peugeot V6 engine. I believe Volvo V6
models such as 760 and 780 all have this engine. They all
short lived pretty much.
David
--- Stephen Grisanti <bike2vcu@YAHOO.COM> wrote:
> I think that engine is the Peugeot-Volvo-Renault PRV
> engine that was also used in the DeLorean. The
> chop-top 262C is a rare bird.
>
> Stephen
>
> --- David Kao <dtkao0205@YAHOO.COM> wrote:
>
> > Guess Friday isn't over yet. I have to talk about my
> > Volvo too.
> > What I have is a 1980 262C. In the 80's there were a
> > lot of 240's.
> > And there were some 260, 262 and 264's. Mine is a
> > 262C. The letter
> > C doesn't tell much about how special it is. It is
> > made (or modified
> > and assembled) in Italy by Bertone. Two door, 6
> > cylinders and automatic.
> > You have to look at it to realize that it is a
> > different kind of Volvo.
> >
> > Unfortunately the V6 engine short lived. I mean very
> > short lived. I purchased
> > it used from a Volvo dealer when it was below 50k
> > miles. After I added
> > 30k+ miles the engine quit. Coolant leaked into oil.
> > Major disaster.
> > I had the head gaskets replaced. But the new gaskets
> > lasted only a few
> > months and collant leaked into oil again. I drained
> > the coolant and changed
> > the oil then put it into storage. Has been in
> > storage for about 6 years
> > now. I believe I need a new engine for it. Instead
> > of rebuilding it, putting
> > in a Japanese V6 engine probably makes more sense.
> >
> > Believe it or not, its chassis looks like a new car
> > still. Shiny paint all
> > over. Alloy wheels and square head lights. It looks
> > really nice except the
> > engine reliability was rather poor. I heard that the
> > V6 engine was actually
> > a French motor. It has wet cylinder liners similar
> > to Vanagon's. I know
> > the engine is still pretty rebuildable. But I would
> > rather put in a Japanese
> > v6 conversion. I would consider a small v8 if
> > possible.
> >
> > David
> >
> >
> > --- Scott Daniel - Shazam
> > <scottdaniel@TURBOVANS.COM> wrote:
> >
> > > Ok, my two cents.
> > > Having worked on volvo's for years.
> > > 140's - good tough strong car - a bit much from
> > the carburetor era.
> > > 240 - they just will not die. The OHC B21F inline
> > 4 starts in 1976
> > > ....There are still countless 240's, mostly
> > wagons, soldering around. Made
> > > up to 92.....I don't' like them, but many do and
> > they have many 100,00's of
> > > thousands of miles in them.
> > >
> > > 740's - expensive to own once they get older
> > unless you do your own work.
> > > My personal 740 is an 88 Turbo Sedan - absolutely
> > the best car I've ever
> > > owned - a factory hot rod with special suspension
> > and brakes to go with the
> > > turbo - loaded with safety, performance, and
> > luxury features. Bought it for
> > > a few hundred bucks. Had to rebuilt everything in
> > it from engine, to trans,
> > > to rear end, all shocks etc. Goes 80 like it's
> > going down hill, steers like
> > > a fighter plane, and does not blow around in gusts
> > at all. ABS brakes,
> > > etc......LOVE that car, but you don't seem many of
> > them on the roads anymore
> > > - due to the expense of getting them repaired
> > professionally when they get
> > > old. I'm up to 217K miles.
> > > Reliable as could be, AFTER every thing is up to
> > spec and refurbished as
> > > needed throughout.
> > >
> > > I 'wish' there was more 'volvo' in Vanagons.
> > Very well made cars - volvos.
> > > Bosch electricals and electronics. Big focus on
> > crashworthiness and over
> > > all safety.
> > >
> > >
> > > The newer Volvos - fwd 850's and above .....a
> > whole other world, more
> > > complex, more 'modern' , not even related to
> > traditional front engine, rear
> > > drive volvo's.
> > > And I think they 'like money' too much when they
> > are above a hundred K to
> > > 150K miles.
> > > Scott
> > > www.turbovans.com
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Vanagon Mailing List
> > [mailto:vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com] On Behalf Of
> > > neil N
> > > Sent: Friday, September 07, 2007 6:23 PM
> > > To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
> > > Subject: Re: Volvo reliability , Bah Humbug
> > >
> > > The following is "said" with a PhriDaye kinda
> > "bent".
> > >
> > > Ok. I'm not trying to start some kind of Swedish
> > War here, ;) (Oh
> > > yes. I am part Swede) but IMHO, almost any $1600
> > car bought offa CL,
> > > is likely going to cost the owner muchos $$ whilst
> > doing a long,
> > > heated, trip. And.,.....
> > >
> > > ..... being a former Volvo 140 series owner, but
> > I'd have to say that
> > > the Volvo 140 (and liekly the 240 series from what
> > I've heard) had
> > > solidly built/designed engines. They were also
> > quite comfortable.
> > > Plus, that wagon-o-mine was a great little hauler.
> > At one time I
> > > thought I'd "have it made" if I could keep my
> > collection of Life-Gear
> > > small enough to fit in that green wagon. Cha.
> > Right! And I have truly
> > > digressed.......
> > >
> > > I miss my old 145S wagon. It didn't have the
> > electric OD, but it was a
> > > good vehicle. I beat that thing silly, running it
> > low on coolant,
> > > revving it too high etc. and it finally developed
> > a REALLY LOUD
> > > intermittent "whack" in the engine. It actually
> > ran fine. It just
> > > whacked a little now and then. (eh..... I'll leave
> > that one alone ;)
> > >
> > > Not trying to start a Volvo flame, but I guess I
> > did rekindle an "old
> > > flame" Volvo memory.
> > >
> > > Neil. The PartSwede.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On 9/7/07, Pensioner <al_knoll@pacbell.net> wrote:
> > > > If one googles "The Frugal Road Trip New York
> > Times" you can learn how to
> > > > spend gobs of cash herding a decrepit OvLov
> > across the fruited plain. Fun
> > > > to read. Keep me away from vintage OvLovs.
> > Rather have a Vanagon.
> > > Wonder
> > > > if Chris Dixon knows this guy?
> > > >
> > > > Vanagons rule most of the time.
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > Neil Nicholson. 1981 Air Cooled Westfalia -
> > > "Jaco" (Bustorius)
> > >
> > > http://web.mac.com/tubaneil
> > >
> > > Please send fav Vanagon/Westfalia links to me at:
> > > musomuso1963@hotmail.com
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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