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Date:         Sat, 15 Sep 2007 11:28:46 -0400
Reply-To:     Poppie Jagersand <poppie.jagersand@YAHOO.CA>
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From:         Poppie Jagersand <poppie.jagersand@YAHOO.CA>
Subject:      Re: where did the starter bushing go?
Comments: To: Brian Jarvinen <brianvwagain@YAHOO.COM>
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On Diesel vans I've seen a couple of cases where the starter bushings (either front or rear on the starter motor) have been so brittle so one could imagine that they would easily disintegrate. I'm thinkiing that towards the end of their life the bushings heat up and become brittle.

Not sure if this is a likely explanation for a gas engine, where the load on the starter is less than 1/2 of a Diesel.

Martin

Brian Jarvinen <brianvwagain@YAHOO.COM> wrote: Well it has been another long couple weeks sorting out electrical gremlins. [I'll have another post shortly about alternator fun.]

I am in the process of replacing a starter and naturally this requires changing the starter bushing. (Thank you VANAGON archives!) Per the many posts over the years I went to do it with a 12mm tap (some posts mentioned a 7/16 tap but I figured the metric would be more accurate) but ran into a surprise in the process. A bit of background - 84 Westy, stock 1.9L, manual trans; after removing the starter (but without taking off the axle, I really don't wanna do that if I don't have to), by finger-tip feel alone it felt like perhaps the bushing was already splitting in two as I could feel a pronounced gap in part of it's circumference. I hoped I could exploit that with a pair of needle nose pliers perhaps but of course the bushing is in there far tighter than that. So I turn the tap in and it gets a nice bite going and is moving down in there until resistance ends. Per what I have read I kept turning several more turns assuming the bushing was in the process of being backed out up the tap. And of course most of this is done on feel without being able to see much, especially with the axle still attached. So after what seemed like enough additional turns to get the bushing moving out I figured by now I could pull it the rest of the way, so I pull the tap out.

And there was no bushing! There was plenty of metal debris all over the tap, but I didn't hear any metal sounds of the rest of it falling anywhere. So my question is: Where did it go?

Could it have been so thin that the tap extraction process made it disintegrate?

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