Date:         Thu, 20 Sep 2007 15:03:14 +1000
Reply-To:     Stephen Overmyer <S.OVERMYER@UWS.EDU.AU>
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From:         Stephen Overmyer <S.OVERMYER@UWS.EDU.AU>
Subject:      Re: Fog Light Kit Update
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Hi John,

I have been watching the progress of this project with interest as I too
would love to have a set of fog lights installed either side of my lower
grille. I even bought the genuine fog light switch quite some time ago
(in case it became NLA before I ever got 'round tuit re the lamps)

I would however be another one of those who could not/would not  cut or
drill into my van's body work for anything...even though I know fully
well that the hole would be adequately covered.

It was for this reason I never installed one of the original T3
Oettinger fog light kits when they were available here in Oz or when the
opportunity occasionally arose to have a set brought back from Germany.
The Oettinger kit required the cutting of a rectangular hole in order to
house the fog lamp as it required setting back into the body. I could
not even contemplate that proposal, even though I trusted myself to do a
neat job and carefully re-paint all exposed metal edges. Also they were
very $%&*ing expensive!

Then along came the Projekt Zwo lamp kit that avoided this requirement
with a shallow lamp and while it was generally regarded here that the
Oettinger lamp arrangement put out a superior light due to the extra
depth of the lamp, I procrastinated too long about actually getting the
PZ kit, they became NLA in Oz and the opportunity passed me by...:-(

Anyway, if the need to drill into one's bodywork can be resolved, count
me in also as another interested party to help make the production of
this item viable. If however drilling cannot be avoided, I would
regretfully have to decline....being the anally retentive VW owner that
I obviously am...;-)

Cheers,
Steve O
NSW Australia
'92 Transporter WBX Kombi
'00 Transporter Double Cab
'03 Transporter Double Cab (work truck)
'07 Passat Variant TDI
'78 Land Rover Series 3 109 soft top ute (ex-Aust. Army)



From:    John Rodgers <inua@CHARTER.NET>
Subject: Fog Light Kit Update

I now have both a sample lamp - graciously supplied by Daniel Stern
Lighting - and the plastic grille sample graciously supplied by Kim
Brennan.

I was ready to take them over to the plastics supply house that is going
to run them for me, but discovered that the lamp from DS, while a very
excellent lamp which includes  built in direction adjusters - has a
connection point that sticks out significantly on the back of the lamp.
To put the assembly together as is - ie, without modifying the plastic
grille piece, requires that a hole about the size of a quarter be cut
into the front sheet metal in order to accommodate the protruding
connector.

My question is - what is everyones feeling about that hole as part of
the price of having these very nice grille extensions with adjustable
fog lamps?

I would like to hear from everyone who has an opinion.

List Vendors - please respond also, with your view as to how that will
impact later sales when people learn they have to cut a hole to make it
fit.

Responses most appreciated.

Thanks,

Regards,

John Rodgers
88 GL Driver

I now have both a sample lamp - graciously supplied by Daniel Stern
Lighting - and the plastic grille sample graciously supplied by Kim
Brennan.

I was ready to take them over to the plastics supply house that is going
to run them for me, but discovered that the lamp from DS, while a very
excellent lamp which includes  built in direction adjusters - has a
connection point that sticks out significantly on the back of the lamp.
To put the assembly together as is - ie, without modifying the plastic
grille piece, requires that a hole about the size of a quarter be cut
into the front sheet metal in order to accommodate the protruding
connector.

My question is - what is everyones feeling about that hole as part of
the price of having these very nice grille extensions with adjustable
fog lamps?

I would like to hear from everyone who has an opinion.

List Vendors - please respond also, with your view as to how that will
impact later sales when people learn they have to cut a hole to make it
fit.

Responses most appreciated.

Thanks,

Regards,

John Rodgers
88 GL Driver