Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2007 16:21:26 -0400
Reply-To: Mike <mbucchino@CHARTER.NET>
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From: Mike <mbucchino@CHARTER.NET>
Subject: Re: Michelin Agilis Tires
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I just bought 2 Michelin Agilis 81's for my original '87 Westy from
TireRack. I love 'em!
Michelin needs to get their head together, regarding giving erronoeous
info to customers regarding their own products. Several tire dealers I
spoke to said that these were no longer available, also. But one I spoke to
said that they were available.
YMMV.....
Mike B.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Mark Drillock" <mdrillock@COX.NET>
To: <vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM>
Sent: Thursday, September 20, 2007 11:35 AM
Subject: Re: Michelin Agilis Tires
>I think the model 61 is gone and 81 is what they still make.
>
> Tirerack shows Agilis in 14 and 15 in stock.
>
> Mark
>
> John Rodgers wrote:
>> I haven't checked, but they may well be out of stock - for a 14 inch
>> rim. I would check and see if they were available in a larger rim size.
>> I'll bet they are. Of course that doesn't do you any good if you have 14
>> in. rims, however. But this gets back to the same old song - you have
>> better and more options with 15 and 16 inch rims than with the stock 14
>> inch rims. This is what has motivated many list members to upgrade
>> their rims. Related to the larger rim upgrade, upgrading to the bigger
>> diameter rims also allows for upgrading to the big brake kits. Plus, you
>> can replace your rear shoe type brakes with disc brakes so you will have
>> disc brake action on all four wheels. Much better braking actions, I
>> would say.
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> John Rodgers
>> 88 GL Driver
>>
>> John Lauterbach wrote:
>>
>>> Hi John,
>>>
>>> I called Michelin customer service last week and told the
>>> representative that my '84 VW Vanagon needed a new set of Agilis 61s
>>> in 185R14C. He told me that Michelin could not provide me with tires
>>> for my van as tires were out-of-stock and no longer made.
>>>
>>> John
>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Rodgers" <inua@CHARTER.NET>
>>> To: <vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM>
>>> Sent: Thursday, September 20, 2007 8:48 AM
>>> Subject: Re: Michelin Agilis Tires
>>>
>>>
>>>> Frank,
>>>>
>>>> That's bogus! It's a marketing ploy by Costco.
>>>>
>>>> Gases - nitrogen or otherwise - all follow the "Ideal Gas Law". This
>>>> law
>>>> - oft stated in chemistry and physics - is comprised of three other
>>>> laws
>>>> - Boyles Law, Charles Law, and Gay-Lussac's Law. A fairly
>>>> comprehensive
>>>> and easy to read summary of these laws is found in Wikipaedia. The
>>>> inside volume of the tire remains constant, so as temperature changes,
>>>> whether from the weather or from rolling friction on the road, the
>>>> pressure will change. The case for nitrogen being used in the Agilis
>>>> tire is that it is a very dry gas - no entrained moisture - and being a
>>>> relatively inert gas, it reduces the tendency of the tire to rot.
>>>>
>>>> BTW, I'm soon to need new tires, and the Agilis is my choice for the
>>>> next set.
>>>>
>>>> Regards,
>>>>
>>>> John Rodgers
>>>> 88 GL Driver
>>>>
>>>> Frank Condelli wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> In a message dated 20/09/2007 6:15:56 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,
>>>>> WHalsey@sya.org writes:
>>>>>
>>>>> Why nitrogen? I have never heard of that.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Because that's what COSTCO is doing. The pamphlet I got from
>>>>> COSTCO says:
>>>>> Nitrogen helps stabilize a tire's inflation pressure.
>>>>>
>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>
>>>>> Frank Condelli
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>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
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