Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2007 10:41:35 -0700
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From: neil N <musomuso@GMAIL.COM>
Subject: Re: VW gas I4 Engine Conversion
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Thanks Robert. I concur.
I also understand that one can use Saab rubber mounts. Frank G had
done a lot of research on that one. (plus more IIRC)
Yup. That is part of my game plan. Save money using parts from donor
for 15 degree. Of course I would need to make or have made, the engine
support bars.
Who knows. A diesel Westy came up locally on CL. I may check it out.
It needs a new engine.
We'll see......
Neil.
On 9/28/07, Robert Keezer <warmerwagen@yahoo.com> wrote:
> 50 degrees .... likely one of
> > the biggest reasons it has significant
> > vibration or
> > "buzziness".
> >
> > Bob
>
>
> Tiico "buzziness" is not due to the angle the
> engine is mounted.
> Some 15 degree Jettas , Golfs, etc have a little
> shock absorber between the block and the frame.
>
> Vibration is an inherent part of the inline-four
> engine design.
>
> The original Tiico kits lacked factory alternator
> and AC compressor brackets, and harmonic crank
> pulley.
>
> The use of substandard brackets and pulleys
> allowed natural vibrations from the engine to be
> transferred.
>
> The poor quality Tiico alternator bracket was
> often misaligned which allowed for the belts to
> vibrate. It was nothing more than a metal plate
> with pipes welded to it.
>
> 1.8 VW engines have significant side -to-side rod
> motion, hence vibration.
> This was solved by introducing the 2.0 liter ABA.
> This has longer rods which minimizes side-to side
> rod movement.
>
> Tiico is now selling it's kit with German made
> brackets, I'm not sure of the crank pulley.
>
> The harmonic crank pulley is a heavy cast pulley
> with a bonded rubber damper ring sandwiched in.
>
> I have the ABA engine with all these features and
> no vibration.
>
> The other question I would like to address is the
> engine angle. The Diesel or Tiico 51 degree angle
> keeps the engine under the lid.
>
> Using the 15 degree requires raising he engine
> lid as the manifold will rise above the access
> edge.
> The advantage if you aren't concerned with losing
> space in the rear is you can use the engine
> straight from the donor with fewer adaptations.
>
> It's also convenient to use the adaptor plate
> which is a must for automatic transmissions.
>
>
> Robert
>
> 1982 Westfalia with '95 ABA engine
>
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