Date: Wed, 3 Oct 2007 22:16:36 -0700
Reply-To: David Kao <dtkao0205@YAHOO.COM>
Sender: Vanagon Mailing List <vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com>
From: David Kao <dtkao0205@YAHOO.COM>
Subject: Re: 20W-50 oil question
In-Reply-To: <47047060.5020708@verizon.net>
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Is it synthetic oil? Dino oil does not have such a wide multi grade oil.
Or am I wrong about this?
David
--- Mike Collum <collum@verizon.net> wrote:
> What I said was, in winter, I use 5W 50 (the engine thinks it has 5
> weight in it when cold).
>
> Mike
>
>
> David Kao wrote:
> > Mike, did you mean to say the other way around? Or am I understanding oil
> > viscosity incorrectly? But I agree with you that when cold 20w-50 has a weight
> > of 20 and 50 at engine's operating temperature. What I have question about
> > is the 20 weight when cold. Especially in winter isn't it too thick? I think
> > you answered the question already.
> >
> > David
> >
> >
> > --- Mike Collum <collum@verizon.net> wrote:
> >
> >> David,
> >>
> >> When it's cold the engine "Thinks" it has 20 weight in it and when it
> >> warms up the engine "Thinks" it has 50 weight in it.
> >>
> >> During the winters in northern Maine I use 5w 50. The engine would
> >> never turn over, when it's below 0º F, using 20w 50.
> >>
> >> Mike
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> David Kao wrote:
> >>> Bob, what is your opinion about dino oil 20w-50 most Vanagon people
> >>> believe in and kind of insist in using it? They have of course a good
> >>> point that the owner's manual suggested it.
> >>>
> >>> My understanding is the 20W part is bad for the first few miles after a
> >>> cold start in the morning. That's when the most wear happens to the engine.
> >>> But the number of 50 in 20w-50 is good for the rising coolant temperature
> >>> when in bumper to bumper traffic. The Vangon's cooling system is unable
> >>> to keep the coolant at a constant temperature in slow traffic or in climbing
> >>> long hills, unlike my Passat which keeps its coolant temperature at a
> >>> constant at all conditions. I can see the benefit of the 50 viscosity
> >>> for vanagons. But 20w part is really bad for cold start and first few
> >>> miles of driving first thing in the morning.
> >>>
> >>> What's the solution for this? What's your opinion about this? Or it doesn't
> >>> matter any way? Thanks a lot.
> >>>
> >>> David
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
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