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Date:         Mon, 1 Oct 2007 22:21:24 -0700
Reply-To:     neil N <musomuso@GMAIL.COM>
Sender:       Vanagon Mailing List <vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com>
From:         neil N <musomuso@GMAIL.COM>
Subject:      Re: MIG welding.
Comments: To: Robyn Lundstrom <robyn@trainwire.com>
In-Reply-To:  <B5C459C3DC73C34C895DC659C59AE529362A@ganja.trainwire.com>
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Hmmm.....

In reading up on MIG welders, it seems that regardless of 110 or 220 VAC needs, I may have to run a new circuit (20 or 30 amp) from the service panel. I was hoping to get away with a 110 on a standard 15 amp breaker, but maybe not.

We'll see....

Thanks,

Neil.

On 10/1/07, Robyn Lundstrom <robyn@trainwire.com> wrote: > It's a 220V machine, so it'll do up to about 1/8" in one pass. 1/4" or > maybe a bit larger if you do both sides. > > Princess Auto in Canada or Harbour Freight (for our American friends) > has 15' NEMA 8AWG extension cords for a reasonable cost (read: under > $100). You'll need at least one of these; the cord on most of these > welders is pathetically short. > > Robyn > > -----Original Message----- > From: neil N [mailto:musomuso@gmail.com] > Sent: Monday, October 01, 2007 9:42 PM > To: Robyn Lundstrom > Cc: vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com > Subject: Re: MIG welding. > > Up to what thickness of metal will it weld? > > (thanks for "heads up") > > Neil. > > On 10/1/07, Robyn Lundstrom <robyn@trainwire.com> wrote: > > Canadian Tire is clearing out a bunch of welders right now (at least > > they were on the weekend). The one I paid $750 for (MIG Pak 15) in > June > > is now on for $500. Sigh. > > > > Robyn > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com] On > Behalf > > Of Rob > > Sent: Monday, October 01, 2007 8:30 PM > > To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM > > Subject: Re: MIG welding. > > > > What kind of wire welder did you end up getting? I guess a lot of us > > are looking and brands/numbers are good. > > > > Rob > > becida@comcast.net > > > > > > At 10/1/2007 08:04 PM, craig cowan wrote: > > >Welding is not that hard, in my mind. I got invoved in it through our > > >highschool. I was the head of the design and building of our schools > > "Battle > > >Bot" for the national competition (we did very well) and built this > > massive > > >steel structure. With no previous welding experience, i got some > basic > > >lessons, grabbed some scrap steel, and was pretty happy with not > making > > to > > >much of a mess after a few days of practice. I ended up buying a MIG > > welder, > > >i found a used one with wire feed, its a real beauty. It's a great > > skill to > > >master in my mind, even if you dont MASTER it for body work. > > Fabrication of > > >parts is definately within the reach of someone willing to put some > > time and > > >creativity into it. > > > > > >Just a pair of pennies from my mind. > > >-Craig > > >'85GL > > > > > >On 10/1/07, neil N <musomuso@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > Interesting. > > > > > > > > Except for guys like Ben (the crasy one) it might be a "dying > art". > > > > For lack of a better term. > > > > > > > > At one point, I thought I'd have the rust cut out and welded, van > > > > painted, blah blah blah. If I had the space, I'd learn more about > > body > > > > work ( I know nuthin now) and have at er'. Huge learning curve > > though. > > > > And I think my Westy has been in a couple of significant > accidents. > > > > Not too sure how well new body parts would line up. i.e. pretty > sure > > > > van isn't "straight". > > > > > > > > Oh well. The old wire wheel and paint routine should suffice to > slow > > > > down the rust. > > > > > > > > Tomorrow I'll check out MIG welders. Hopefully I'll find a > > reasonably > > > > priced unit that has enough juice to do what I need and can do > both > > > > gas and gasless (fluxed wire) welding. > > > > > > > > Neil. > > > > > > > > On 10/1/07, Chris S. <mrpolak@yahoo.com> wrote: > > > > > Cool site! I always wanted to learn the skill. > > > > > > > > > > I think more rust repair is done in Europe than US of A due to > > > > inspection > > > > > requirement differences. When I mention "rust repair" here > people > > stare > > > > as > > > > > if I just cast a spell. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > neil N <musomuso@GMAIL.COM> wrote: > > > > > Hi all. > > > > > > > > > > I've been reading about welding. (Haynes publication) I'm > > interested > > > > > in trying my hand at welding up some parts for my Vanagon engine > > > > > conversion ( - VC - ) here at home. FWIW, from what I've read, > MIG > > > > > welding seems more user friendly and appropriate for the average > > Joe. > > > > > > > > > > Here's a great site with excellent images and what looks like > > really > > > > > useful info on MIG: > > > > > > > > > > http://www.mig-welding.co.uk/ > > > > > > > > > > there's even a video of the guy laying down a bead. There is > also > > car > > > > > restoration pics worth looking at. > > > > > > > > > > Nice site. > > > > > > > > > > Just thought I'd share. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Cheers, > > > > > > > > > > Neil. > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > Neil Nicholson. 1981 Air Cooled Westfalia - > > > > > "Jaco" (Bustorius) > > > > > > > > > > http://web.mac.com/tubaneil > > > > > > > > > > Please send fav Vanagon/Westfalia links to me at: > > > > > musomuso1963@hotmail.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ > > > > > Take the Internet to Go: Yahoo!Go puts the Internet in your > > pocket: > > > > mail, > > > > > news, photos & more. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > Neil Nicholson. 1981 Air Cooled Westfalia - > > > > "Jaco" (Bustorius) > > > > > > > > http://web.mac.com/tubaneil > > > > > > > > Please send fav Vanagon/Westfalia links to me at: > > > > musomuso1963@hotmail.com > > > > > > > > > -- > Neil Nicholson. 1981 Air Cooled Westfalia - > "Jaco" (Bustorius) > > http://web.mac.com/tubaneil > > Please send fav Vanagon/Westfalia links to me at: > musomuso1963@hotmail.com >

-- Neil Nicholson. 1981 Air Cooled Westfalia - "Jaco" (Bustorius)

http://web.mac.com/tubaneil

Please send fav Vanagon/Westfalia links to me at: musomuso1963@hotmail.com


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