Date: Tue, 2 Oct 2007 01:51:25 -0400
Reply-To: Jim Akiba <syncrolist@BOSTIG.COM>
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From: Jim Akiba <syncrolist@BOSTIG.COM>
Subject: Fwd: MIG welding.
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You should be able to do .250" mild with a single weave I'd think. Maybe
.375"-.500" with multiple stringers, if you run straight CO2 you'll be able
to run a little "hotter" as well, albeit with more spatter than argon, but
way less than flux core. Actually cancel the multiple stringers for now,
it'll look stronger than it is, which is the worst thing you can do to
yourself ha. You'll need good lines to max the machine out though, I've
seen old lines around here pulled so low that they almost cut capability in
half. Check drop just to know as well as to be safe. Good fine motor
control, and making sure you're prepared in a comfortable position with the
right combo and clean metal will boost your confidence quickly, and tame
some of the uncertainty of being able to learn to fuse metal well yourself
:) which you totally can. And I second Kim's idea, straight beads on flat
big surfaces is a good way to start training your hand. Also drawing
straight lines with a weighted stick in sand is a good way to do the same
without hurting your lungs, eyes, skin, or wallet all of which welding can
do in one fashion or another. You also get to look like you escaped from
somewhere if people see you doing it ha.
Jim Akiba
On 10/2/07, neil N <musomuso@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Up to what thickness of metal will it weld?
>
> (thanks for "heads up")
>
> Neil.
>
> On 10/1/07, Robyn Lundstrom <robyn@trainwire.com> wrote:
> > Canadian Tire is clearing out a bunch of welders right now (at least
> > they were on the weekend). The one I paid $750 for (MIG Pak 15) in June
> > is now on for $500. Sigh.
> >
> > Robyn
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto: vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com] On Behalf
> > Of Rob
> > Sent: Monday, October 01, 2007 8:30 PM
> > To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
> > Subject: Re: MIG welding.
> >
> > What kind of wire welder did you end up getting? I guess a lot of us
> > are looking and brands/numbers are good.
> >
> > Rob
> > becida@comcast.net
> >
> >
> > At 10/1/2007 08:04 PM, craig cowan wrote:
> > >Welding is not that hard, in my mind. I got invoved in it through our
> > >highschool. I was the head of the design and building of our schools
> > "Battle
> > >Bot" for the national competition (we did very well) and built this
> > massive
> > >steel structure. With no previous welding experience, i got some basic
> > >lessons, grabbed some scrap steel, and was pretty happy with not making
>
> > to
> > >much of a mess after a few days of practice. I ended up buying a MIG
> > welder,
> > >i found a used one with wire feed, its a real beauty. It's a great
> > skill to
> > >master in my mind, even if you dont MASTER it for body work.
> > Fabrication of
> > >parts is definately within the reach of someone willing to put some
> > time and
> > >creativity into it.
> > >
> > >Just a pair of pennies from my mind.
> > >-Craig
> > >'85GL
> > >
> > >On 10/1/07, neil N <musomuso@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Interesting.
> > > >
> > > > Except for guys like Ben (the crasy one) it might be a "dying art".
> > > > For lack of a better term.
> > > >
> > > > At one point, I thought I'd have the rust cut out and welded, van
> > > > painted, blah blah blah. If I had the space, I'd learn more about
> > body
> > > > work ( I know nuthin now) and have at er'. Huge learning curve
> > though.
> > > > And I think my Westy has been in a couple of significant accidents.
> > > > Not too sure how well new body parts would line up. i.e. pretty sure
> > > > van isn't "straight".
> > > >
> > > > Oh well. The old wire wheel and paint routine should suffice to slow
> > > > down the rust.
> > > >
> > > > Tomorrow I'll check out MIG welders. Hopefully I'll find a
> > reasonably
> > > > priced unit that has enough juice to do what I need and can do both
> > > > gas and gasless (fluxed wire) welding.
> > > >
> > > > Neil.
> > > >
> > > > On 10/1/07, Chris S. <mrpolak@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > > > > Cool site! I always wanted to learn the skill.
> > > > >
> > > > > I think more rust repair is done in Europe than US of A due to
> > > > inspection
> > > > > requirement differences. When I mention "rust repair" here people
>
> > stare
> > > > as
> > > > > if I just cast a spell.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > neil N <musomuso@GMAIL.COM > wrote:
> > > > > Hi all.
> > > > >
> > > > > I've been reading about welding. (Haynes publication) I'm
> > interested
> > > > > in trying my hand at welding up some parts for my Vanagon engine
> > > > > conversion ( - VC - ) here at home. FWIW, from what I've read, MIG
> > > > > welding seems more user friendly and appropriate for the average
> > Joe.
> > > > >
> > > > > Here's a great site with excellent images and what looks like
> > really
> > > > > useful info on MIG:
> > > > >
> > > > > http://www.mig-welding.co.uk/
> > > > >
> > > > > there's even a video of the guy laying down a bead. There is also
> > car
> > > > > restoration pics worth looking at.
> > > > >
> > > > > Nice site.
> > > > >
> > > > > Just thought I'd share.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Cheers,
> > > > >
> > > > > Neil.
> > > > >
> > > > > --
> > > > > Neil Nicholson. 1981 Air Cooled Westfalia -
> > > > > "Jaco" (Bustorius)
> > > > >
> > > > > http://web.mac.com/tubaneil
> > > > >
> > > > > Please send fav Vanagon/Westfalia links to me at:
> > > > > musomuso1963@hotmail.com
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
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> > > > --
> > > > Neil Nicholson. 1981 Air Cooled Westfalia -
> > > > "Jaco" (Bustorius)
> > > >
> > > > http://web.mac.com/tubaneil
> > > >
> > > > Please send fav Vanagon/Westfalia links to me at:
> > > > musomuso1963@hotmail.com
> > > >
> >
>
>
> --
> Neil Nicholson. 1981 Air Cooled Westfalia -
> "Jaco" (Bustorius)
>
> http://web.mac.com/tubaneil
>
> Please send fav Vanagon/Westfalia links to me at:
> musomuso1963@hotmail.com
>
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