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Date:         Mon, 1 Oct 2007 23:38:00 -0700
Reply-To:     Robyn Lundstrom <robyn@TRAINWIRE.COM>
Sender:       Vanagon Mailing List <vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com>
From:         Robyn Lundstrom <robyn@TRAINWIRE.COM>
Subject:      Re: MIG welding.
Comments: To: Jim Akiba <syncrolist@bostig.com>
In-Reply-To:  <ac1f198b0710012249i6aa4c9d6v44df6fcc8547dcd3@mail.gmail.com>
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Maybe I'm remembering it wrong... the largest I've yet had to do is 1/8".

You're right, short cord is better. However the stock cord is about 4' long, which doesn't even make it halfway across my shop when I stretch the nozzle as far as it'll go (which is not great for it).

Robyn

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From: jakiba@bostig.com [mailto:jakiba@bostig.com] On Behalf Of Jim Akiba Sent: Monday, October 01, 2007 10:50 PM To: Robyn Lundstrom Cc: vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com Subject: Re: MIG welding.

Isn't the MIG pak 15 175 amps? I'm thinking more like .250" single pass with good power and CO2. Also remember adding length to the cord is bad, short is good. This means all the way to the bus, not just the wall. So actually I agree with you about the .125". If you have a mediocre line it could indeed be more like .125"-.1875" single pass.

Jim Akiba

On 10/2/07, Robyn Lundstrom <robyn@trainwire.com> wrote:

It's a 220V machine, so it'll do up to about 1/8" in one pass. 1/4" or maybe a bit larger if you do both sides.

Princess Auto in Canada or Harbour Freight (for our American friends) has 15' NEMA 8AWG extension cords for a reasonable cost (read: under $100). You'll need at least one of these; the cord on most of these welders is pathetically short.

Robyn

-----Original Message----- From: neil N [mailto:musomuso@gmail.com ] Sent: Monday, October 01, 2007 9:42 PM To: Robyn Lundstrom Cc: vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com Subject: Re: MIG welding.

Up to what thickness of metal will it weld?

(thanks for "heads up")

Neil.

On 10/1/07, Robyn Lundstrom <robyn@trainwire.com> wrote: > Canadian Tire is clearing out a bunch of welders right now (at least > they were on the weekend). The one I paid $750 for (MIG Pak 15) in June > is now on for $500. Sigh. > > Robyn > > -----Original Message----- > From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto: vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com] On Behalf > Of Rob > Sent: Monday, October 01, 2007 8:30 PM > To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM > Subject: Re: MIG welding. > > What kind of wire welder did you end up getting? I guess a lot of us > are looking and brands/numbers are good. > > Rob > becida@comcast.net > > > At 10/1/2007 08:04 PM, craig cowan wrote: > >Welding is not that hard, in my mind. I got invoved in it through our > >highschool. I was the head of the design and building of our schools > "Battle > >Bot" for the national competition (we did very well) and built this > massive > >steel structure. With no previous welding experience, i got some basic > >lessons, grabbed some scrap steel, and was pretty happy with not making > to > >much of a mess after a few days of practice. I ended up buying a MIG > welder, > >i found a used one with wire feed, its a real beauty. It's a great > skill to > >master in my mind, even if you dont MASTER it for body work. > Fabrication of > >parts is definately within the reach of someone willing to put some > time and > >creativity into it. > > > >Just a pair of pennies from my mind. > >-Craig > >'85GL > > > >On 10/1/07, neil N <musomuso@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > Interesting. > > > > > > Except for guys like Ben (the crasy one) it might be a "dying art". > > > For lack of a better term. > > > > > > At one point, I thought I'd have the rust cut out and welded, van > > > painted, blah blah blah. If I had the space, I'd learn more about > body > > > work ( I know nuthin now) and have at er'. Huge learning curve > though. > > > And I think my Westy has been in a couple of significant accidents. > > > Not too sure how well new body parts would line up. i.e. pretty sure > > > van isn't "straight". > > > > > > Oh well. The old wire wheel and paint routine should suffice to slow > > > down the rust. > > > > > > Tomorrow I'll check out MIG welders. Hopefully I'll find a > reasonably > > > priced unit that has enough juice to do what I need and can do both > > > gas and gasless (fluxed wire) welding. > > > > > > Neil. > > > > > > On 10/1/07, Chris S. <mrpolak@yahoo.com> wrote: > > > > Cool site! I always wanted to learn the skill. > > > > > > > > I think more rust repair is done in Europe than US of A due to > > > inspection > > > > requirement differences. When I mention "rust repair" here people > stare > > > as > > > > if I just cast a spell. > > > > > > > > > > > > neil N <musomuso@GMAIL.COM> wrote: > > > > Hi all. > > > > > > > > I've been reading about welding. (Haynes publication) I'm > interested > > > > in trying my hand at welding up some parts for my Vanagon engine > > > > conversion ( - VC - ) here at home. FWIW, from what I've read, MIG > > > > welding seems more user friendly and appropriate for the average

> Joe. > > > > > > > > Here's a great site with excellent images and what looks like > really > > > > useful info on MIG: > > > > > > > > http://www.mig-welding.co.uk/ > > > > > > > > there's even a video of the guy laying down a bead. There is also > car > > > > restoration pics worth looking at. > > > > > > > > Nice site. > > > > > > > > Just thought I'd share. > > > > > > > > > > > > Cheers, > > > > > > > > Neil. > > > > > > > > -- > > > > Neil Nicholson. 1981 Air Cooled Westfalia - > > > > "Jaco" (Bustorius) > > > > > > > > http://web.mac.com/tubaneil > > > > > > > > Please send fav Vanagon/Westfalia links to me at: > > > > musomuso1963@hotmail.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ > > > > Take the Internet to Go: Yahoo!Go puts the Internet in your > pocket: > > > mail, > > > > news, photos & more. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > Neil Nicholson. 1981 Air Cooled Westfalia - > > > "Jaco" (Bustorius) > > > > > > http://web.mac.com/tubaneil > > > > > > Please send fav Vanagon/Westfalia links to me at: > > > musomuso1963@hotmail.com > > > >

-- Neil Nicholson. 1981 Air Cooled Westfalia - "Jaco" (Bustorius)

http://web.mac.com/tubaneil

Please send fav Vanagon/Westfalia links to me at: musomuso1963@hotmail.com


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