Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2007 16:13:01 +0000
Reply-To: rubatoguy@COMCAST.NET
Sender: Vanagon Mailing List <vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com>
From: Todd Last <rubatoguy@COMCAST.NET>
Subject: STP WAS==>Re: 20W-50 oil question
As I recall, the main ingrediant in STP was parrifin and it had the bad habit of being extreemly difficult to remove once added to an engine. I had a friend of mine in high-school add it to his mini-bike and then spent part of the summer having to take the engine apart to scrub out all the STP residue once the performance of the engine took a nosedive.
I always find myself asking, if those additives were so great, wouldn't you see the major oil makers adding them to their oils?
Todd
'88 Westy
-------------- Original message ----------------------
From: Bob Donalds <donalds1@VERIZON.NET>
> I have a bottle and have done some playing with samples assembly lube and
> such
> but too many bad memorys of STP
>
> time will tell
> Bob
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Jack R." <jack007@COMCAST.NET>
> To: <vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM>
> Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2007 6:54 AM
> Subject: Re: 20W-50 oil question
>
>
> > Bob,
> >
> > And what are your thoughts on Lucas Oil Stabilizer? I've been using Elf
> > 10W50 4 qts, and 1 qt of Lucas... with great results in my 2.1L. Mann
> > filters of course!
> >
> > Jack R.
> > N. of Detroit
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com] On Behalf Of
> > Bob Donalds
> > Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2007 10:18 AM
> > To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
> > Subject: Re: 20W-50 oil question
> >
> > I went to sleep early
> > 20/50 is the right stuff and can be used most of the year here in the
> > north
> > it s not like the top end of the engine is dry when it starts cold so it
> > has
> > lubrication
> >
> > Bob
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Jim Akiba
> > To: Bob Donalds
> > Sent: Wednesday, October 03, 2007 9:53 PM
> > Subject: Fwd: 20W-50 oil question
> >
> >
> > You're being paged on the vanagon list beep beep beep
> >
> > ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> > From: David Kao < dtkao0205@yahoo.com>
> > Date: Oct 4, 2007 12:06 AM
> > Subject: Re: 20W-50 oil question
> > To: vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com
> >
> > Bob, what is your opinion about dino oil 20w-50 most Vanagon people
> > believe in and kind of insist in using it? They have of course a good
> > point that the owner's manual suggested it.
> >
> > My understanding is the 20W part is bad for the first few miles after a
> > cold start in the morning. That's when the most wear happens to the
> > engine.
> > But the number of 50 in 20w-50 is good for the rising coolant temperature
> > when in bumper to bumper traffic. The Vangon's cooling system is unable
> > to keep the coolant at a constant temperature in slow traffic or in
> > climbing
> > long hills, unlike my Passat which keeps its coolant temperature at a
> > constant at all conditions. I can see the benefit of the 50 viscosity
> > for vanagons. But 20w part is really bad for cold start and first few
> > miles of driving first thing in the morning.
> >
> > What's the solution for this? What's your opinion about this? Or it
> > doesn't
> > matter any way? Thanks a lot.
> >
> > David
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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