Date: Sun, 21 Oct 2007 12:46:21 -0700
Reply-To: Jake de Villiers <crescentbeachguitar@GMAIL.COM>
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From: Jake de Villiers <crescentbeachguitar@GMAIL.COM>
Subject: Re: SVC: Link to T-3 Foto
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Not to mention the broken window glass all over the taxiway where the van
hit the plane and the 8 or 9 guys standing around near the T3. There are
also a couple of guys walking away from the scene.
Looks real enough to me! :)
On 10/21/07, John Bange <jbange@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Found the pic:
>
> http://tinyurl.com/3hv99
>
> It's a spoof. The roof wac CUT off, and a piece of folded metal
> > (possibly the roof after being folded) attached to the plane's wing.
>
>
> Ehhhh..... I dunno. The metal of the roof is pretty well formed to the
> outboard wing pylon on the F3 Tornado. It'd be pretty hard to bend it up
> like that and then mount it.
>
> Car roofs do not tear off when they hit low objects; leave that for
> > Hollywood. And if they did manage to anyway, they wouldn't leave
> > straight edges on the vehicle's undistorted pillars.
>
>
> You can't see the T3 or pillar attachment points clearly enough to tell
> whether they were cut or simply ripped loose at the spot welds True,
> vehicle
> roofs don't just shear off when run against a lateral obstruction, but
> this
> one doesn't look like that's what happened. The T3 didn't hit the wing,
> but
> rather it looks like the low hanging outer weapons station pylon (see <
> http://preview.tinyurl.com/2pf5cm>) actually hooked just under the leading
> edge of the roof, through the windshield. What happens when you pull very
> hard and very quickly backwards and slightly inward/upwards on a T3 roof
> from the front? Seems like maybe the spot welds at the tops of the
> A-pillars
> would pop loose, followed by the B, C, and D pillars...
>
> If the original image could be examined, it might show that it's the
> > image that's a fake, rather than go through the hassles of deroofing
> > a bus and hanging a piece of metal from a plane's wing.
>
>
> There's a couple good clues it's not a photoshopped, even in the lo-res
> image we have. First, the reflection of the crumpled roof can be seen in
> the
> shiny paint on the underside of the Tornado's wing. Second, the
> illumination
> of the roofless T3 and far background behind the T3 is thoroughly
> consistent. Given that, the only other way it could have been faked would
> be
> if it was actually physically staged. Since the T3, the Tornado aircraft,
> and the strip they're all parked on are all obviously German Air Force
> property, it seems unlikely that anyone would be wiling to risk their
> military career for a "funny" picture. I doubt the Luftwaffe would look
> kindly upon someone hanging a heavy chunk of scrap metal from a wing pylon
> of a multi-million Euro aircraft. Seems to me the only reasonable
> explanation is that what looks like happened, did.
>
> --
> John Bange
> '90 Vanagon - "Geldsauger"
>
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Jake
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