Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2007 09:26:08 -0400
Reply-To: Kenneth Wilford <kenwilfy@COMCAST.NET>
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From: Kenneth Wilford <kenwilfy@COMCAST.NET>
Subject: Re: Cibie H4 rectangular in a Vanagon?
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John,
I have a pair of these Cibies and have modified them to mount on a
Vanagon, however it is not something that everyone can do and I will
tell you why. I could find no way to mount them and get to be able to
adjust properly except by using an old pair of stock Vanagon lights that
had broken lenses. I smashed out the rest of the glass and then cut
away the reflector until I could mount the Cibie light in the middle of
it and allow access to the bulb. I then glued the Cibie housing into
the Vanagon modified housing with silicon. It has worked and held up
for several years with no signs of failure. Since you use part of the
stock Vanagon reflector the mounts are all there for the stock
adjusters. However not everyone has a set of already broken headlight
lenses. To take a pair of good lenses and break them just to do this
upgrade is like wasting at least $75 per lens or more (what you could
get by selling the old lenses). Add this to the cost of the Cibie
lenses and the other parts you will need and you are probably
approaching the cost of one of my H4 upgrade kits so what is the point.
I have the Euro H4 Version of the Vanagon square lights on my site for
sale as a kit and I would recommend just selling your old lights and
then buying the upgrade kit. Everything just fits together because it
is all stock VW parts. I have sold many of these kits and folks are
very happy with them. I would also recommend buying a set of headlight
covers. These are $49 a pair but they protect over $400-500 worth of
lights and adjusters. I have had a set on my 90 Carat for four years
and have had no issues with them or the lights they protect.
Hope this helps,
Ken Wilford
John 3:16
www.vanagain.com
John Meeks wrote:
> On 10/16/07, Andrew Grebneff <andrew.grebneff@stonebow.otago.ac.nz> wrote:
>
>
>> There must be websites which have tests of various H4 units.
>>
> http://dastern.torque.net/Photometry/Isocomparo.html compares Cibie
> (top pattern) with Hella 7" rounds. Mr. Stern assures me that the
> rectangular patterns are comparable.
>
>
>
>> I would imagine that, like generic round headlights, the VW and Cibie
>> lights will have the same fittings.
>>
>
> The rectangular Cibies have a slot on each side of the headlight about
> 1/8" wide and 3/4" long oriented horizontally front to back in the
> mounted position. It appears that the mount would have tabs which
> would lock into these slots, but I have never seen Cibies in their
> native habitat ;-). I will need to fab a frame which locks into these
> slots and provides anchor points (holes) for the Vanagon adjusters...
>
> Can anyone describe the stock mounting method for these rectangular Cibies ?
> --
> John Meeks
>
> Vanagon Rescue Squad
> http://www.vanagonauts.com/Vanagon_Rescue_Squad74.htm
>
> '91 Multivan, '85 GL
> Northern Michigan
> KC8ZFN
>
>
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