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Date:         Sun, 21 Oct 2007 12:46:21 -0700
Reply-To:     Jake de Villiers <crescentbeachguitar@GMAIL.COM>
Sender:       Vanagon Mailing List <vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com>
From:         Jake de Villiers <crescentbeachguitar@GMAIL.COM>
Subject:      Re: SVC: Link to T-3 Foto
Comments: To: John Bange <jbange@gmail.com>
In-Reply-To:  <6da579340710211054u730fa7d0pda5520a8a40c396e@mail.gmail.com>
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Not to mention the broken window glass all over the taxiway where the van hit the plane and the 8 or 9 guys standing around near the T3. There are also a couple of guys walking away from the scene.

Looks real enough to me! :)

On 10/21/07, John Bange <jbange@gmail.com> wrote: > > Found the pic: > > http://tinyurl.com/3hv99 > > It's a spoof. The roof wac CUT off, and a piece of folded metal > > (possibly the roof after being folded) attached to the plane's wing. > > > Ehhhh..... I dunno. The metal of the roof is pretty well formed to the > outboard wing pylon on the F3 Tornado. It'd be pretty hard to bend it up > like that and then mount it. > > Car roofs do not tear off when they hit low objects; leave that for > > Hollywood. And if they did manage to anyway, they wouldn't leave > > straight edges on the vehicle's undistorted pillars. > > > You can't see the T3 or pillar attachment points clearly enough to tell > whether they were cut or simply ripped loose at the spot welds True, > vehicle > roofs don't just shear off when run against a lateral obstruction, but > this > one doesn't look like that's what happened. The T3 didn't hit the wing, > but > rather it looks like the low hanging outer weapons station pylon (see < > http://preview.tinyurl.com/2pf5cm>) actually hooked just under the leading > edge of the roof, through the windshield. What happens when you pull very > hard and very quickly backwards and slightly inward/upwards on a T3 roof > from the front? Seems like maybe the spot welds at the tops of the > A-pillars > would pop loose, followed by the B, C, and D pillars... > > If the original image could be examined, it might show that it's the > > image that's a fake, rather than go through the hassles of deroofing > > a bus and hanging a piece of metal from a plane's wing. > > > There's a couple good clues it's not a photoshopped, even in the lo-res > image we have. First, the reflection of the crumpled roof can be seen in > the > shiny paint on the underside of the Tornado's wing. Second, the > illumination > of the roofless T3 and far background behind the T3 is thoroughly > consistent. Given that, the only other way it could have been faked would > be > if it was actually physically staged. Since the T3, the Tornado aircraft, > and the strip they're all parked on are all obviously German Air Force > property, it seems unlikely that anyone would be wiling to risk their > military career for a "funny" picture. I doubt the Luftwaffe would look > kindly upon someone hanging a heavy chunk of scrap metal from a wing pylon > of a multi-million Euro aircraft. Seems to me the only reasonable > explanation is that what looks like happened, did. > > -- > John Bange > '90 Vanagon - "Geldsauger" >

-- Jake 1984 Vanagon GL 1986 Westy Weekender "Dixie" www.crescentbeachguitar.com http://subyjake.googlepages.com/


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