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Date:         Wed, 24 Oct 2007 15:36:02 -0800
Reply-To:     Mark Tuovinen <mst@AK.NET>
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From:         Mark Tuovinen <mst@AK.NET>
Subject:      Re: The "Real" a NEW Micro-bus, now Element with pop top
Comments: To: BJ Feddish <bfeddish@NETREACH.NET>
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The sunroof in the back is part of the niche marketing that Honda was aiming at. To be specific it was designed for the "California" surfer boy so that he could stand up in the back and change into his swimsuit without exposing his genitals/ derriere to the rest of us.

Mark in AK Assistant Parts Manager Continental Honda

----- Original Message ----- From: BJ Feddish <bfeddish@NETREACH.NET> Date: Wednesday, October 24, 2007 1:46 pm Subject: Re: The "Real" a NEW Micro-bus, now Element with pop top To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM

> Whaoh. >

> I just got RID of a Honda Element and bought a Eurovan. I'll tell

> you what > I did not like about the Element so you have something to

> consider. The > first thing is the enormous blind spots. The A and B pillars are

> huge. The A > pillar can hide a car or lady with a shopping cart easily. The B

> and C > pillars keep you from seeing cars on your left and right. Just

> Google the > words Honda Element and Blind Spot and you will see what I mean.

> Next, my > AWD Element got 18MPG in the city, that's less than my '83 Westy.

> OK, as > for that AWD system, it's a computer controlled AWD so what

> happens is you > are at a hill in the rain, you press the gas pedal, the front

> wheels start > slipping then the rear kicks in and gets the car moving. Pretty

> annoying.Not as smooth acceleration as a real AWD or traction

> control vehicle. Add to > all that those unbelievably annoying suicide doors which will

> leave you > trapped between 2 doors in a parking lot and you have one

> undesirable car. >

> I'm still trying to figure out that useless sunroof at the back of

> the car > but I guess it's great if you are adding a poptop.... >

> Why did I buy it, it was relatively cheap and I though it would

> suit my > needs at the time which involves carrying an upright bass and

> equipment. It > didn't really do that too well either. >

> Reliable? OK, you got me there. All I did was change the oil and

> air filter > while I owned it. Bastards. ;) >

> Anyway, I love this Eurovan, I would I could have afforded to buy

> it new in > '03 but they were too expensive being $10K more than the Element

> at the > time. >

> Bryan >

> -----Original Message----- > From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com] On

> Behalf Of > Aaron Pearson > Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2007 5:15 PM > To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM > Subject: Re: The "Real" a NEW Micro-bus, now Element with pop top >

> has anyone seen one of these live? sorry if i sound like a

> heretic, but > that's pretty tempting. >

> aaron > '87 syncro westy ej22 >

> > Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2007 14:24:49 -0600 > > From: tombuese@COMCAST.NET > > Subject: Re: The "Real" a NEW Micro-bus, now Element with pop top > > To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM > >

> > Where is the kitchen? > >

> > Tom B.-put 1 of those suckers on a regular height Sprinter & now you > > got a new generation camper? > >

> > On Oct 24, 2007, at 1:02 PM, Paul Guzyk wrote: > >

> > >> Boy that pic with the doors open seems very "Honda Element". > > >> > > > > > > How about this Element "Westfalia" > > > http://www.ursaminorvehicles.com/camper.htm >

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