Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2007 13:55:47 -0800
Reply-To: jon <jon@KENNEKE.COM>
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From: jon <jon@KENNEKE.COM>
Subject: Re: I seem to have gotten burned... by someone in Portland, ore.
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This is somewhat off-topic, but many of us use Paypal to buy the never
ending stream of parts for our Vanagons........
Here's a little Paypal advice (and, as always, in the advice department,
you get what you pay for ;)):
Always, and I mean *ALWAYS* use a credit card to fund Paypal transactions.
Their complaint resolution process, well, sucks to put it nicely.
Example: I bought and never received an item. Reported it, and got *most*
of my money back. They keep a $10 "fee". Crooks. After two months, and
another complaint with the State Attorney General, I finally received the
item. Paypal was no help.
Now, when you fund by credit card, don't even bother with the crooks at
Paypal. Simply call (or use the CC web site) to initiate a charge back.
Then, you will most likely get *ALL* of your money returned.
Don't even get me started on the crappy protection Paypal "provides" for
sellers. eBay is just as bad. Since they have been one and the same for
awhile now, things just go downhill.
Sure, I still grudging use ePal. When a reasonable alternative comes
along, I will switch in a second.
For now, as a seller, I "self-insure". That means I build some padding
into the price of all my goods, because I know Paypal will screw me as the
seller on a certain (fortunately small) percentage of transactions.
Buyers and sellers beware. I hate to sound so negative, but Paybay has
earned my bad wrath. ;(
Jon
On Tue, 30 Oct 2007, Scott Daniel - Shazam wrote:
> Exactly, paypal and credit cards both, I'm pretty sure, when the buyer says
> they didn't get what they contracted for, paypal or the credit company
> cancel the sale first, and ask questions later, ...or rather, the merchant
> that didn't get their money .....it's up to them to prove that they did
> indeed deliver as promised.
> Paypal is an eBay entity, btw.
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com] On Behalf Of
> Christopher Gronski
> Sent: Tuesday, October 30, 2007 2:22 PM
> To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
> Subject: Re: I seem to have gotten burned... by someone in portland, ore.
>
> If you paid paypal you might, they have a dispute resolution proncess...
>
> On Oct 30, 2007 5:11 PM, Kai Mei <kai@newclear.us> wrote:
>
> > I bought a used cat, and muffler sold as good conditon for $40 plus
> > shipping. The cat has broken flanges and is EMPTY. (I mainly need the
> > cat and thought it would be ok to have a spare muffler.
> >
> > Bought from a samba ad... do I have any recourse to get that $ back?
> > The seller does not return email.
> >
>
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