Date: Fri, 9 Nov 2007 12:56:49 -0800
Reply-To: Scott Daniel - Shazam <scottdaniel@TURBOVANS.COM>
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From: Scott Daniel - Shazam <scottdaniel@TURBOVANS.COM>
Subject: Re: Starter question
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It seems that you are unclear if it's a tired starter or wiring and
switching to it.
If the starter will operate perfectly via a Remote Starter Switch...which is
a tool, which I wouldn't go anywhere without, and which I use about 20 times
a month diagnosing and working on vanagons, which I can't seem to get anyone
to realize the value of ....
If it works that way, it's not the starter.
The 'other part' you wonder about is the neutral safety switch on the shift
linkage, inside the shifter console.
One 'for sure' test for a bad starter is, if it should fire, like it's
getting a good signal to it, but won't go, but does when you whack it with a
hammer, that's for sure a tired starter.
Scott
www.turbovans.com
-----Original Message-----
From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com] On Behalf Of
TJ Hemrick
Sent: Friday, November 09, 2007 9:28 AM
To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
Subject: Starter question
After a fruitless search of the archives (they locked up-again and now not
accessible), I have a question for all the pro's and anyone who's had to get
underneath their van and jump the starter contacts more than once. If the
switch portion is good (tested and verified) but I can start it up via the
starter/solenoid contacts, is there ANYTHING else that I may have missed?
Maybe some hidden component? Some secret VW Engineer torture trick? The
switch portion of the ignition was an easy suspect as it hesitated (or a
short pause) when you turn the key and 1-2 seconds later it would turn
over. Now, it won't turn over at all unless I climb underneath and do it
the old school way. It's an 87 Wolfsburg with an automatic. I'm just
throwing it out there BEFORE I climb underneath and start pulling the
starter.
Now don't start a digest war over this one. Me, I'm inclined to spend the
money and get a good replacement starter (aka Bosch) from a vendor.
Butttttt, some of you will swear by getting a no name starter one at FLAPS.
Great guarantee from the latter but most of you have mentioned that you had
to swap them out 2-3 times before you found one that would go the distance.
I've been fortunate for a very long time that I never had starter problems
and overlooked most of the list comments. Now, that's going to bite me. I
still haven't located the cause for my stalling and hard to start issue. A
horrible time for the starter system to act up. German engineering at it's
finest!
TJ
87 Wolfie
87 Syncro
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