Date: Thu, 8 Nov 2007 10:26:50 -0800
Reply-To: David Marshall <mailinglist@FASTFORWARD.CA>
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From: David Marshall <mailinglist@FASTFORWARD.CA>
Subject: Re: ABA 2.0L 15 degrees
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The problem with the 1.8L Digifant head is the long intake runners - the
intake manifold will still be the highest thing in the engine
bay. Also the throttle valve will be pointing towards the
front and that is a PITA to get a good hose to. There are two
solutions for this:
- Golf MK-I intake manifold: a lot shorter
and points to the rear
- Bandsaw and TIG welding. If you
and work aluminium then you can install the throttle valve on whatever
side you want it on. You can even take the ABA flange and weld it on
the MK-I or MK-II intake manifold plus you can reduce the intake runner
length to make it so the valve cover is the highest thing in the engine
compartment. The intake manifold used in the Remtec / Tiico swap has
a good design for an application like this. I think I would be
tempted to use the ABA head and make a short runner intake manifold
simular to a 1.8T... all comes down to what tools and resources you have
access to.
David Marshall
http://www.hasenwerk.ca
http://www.fastforward.ca
Box
4153, Quesnel BC, Canada V2J 3J2
On Thu, November 8, 2007
09:30, neil N wrote:
> I have been reading up on SRI's
>
> How much would the swap of a short runner intake reduce height
of
> engine at 15 degrees?
>
> I know there would
be a trade off of torque ( a loss in low end IIRC.
> And fuel
efficiency??) and they can be pricey.
>
> Just
curious.
>
> Neil.
>
> On 11/8/07, David
Marshall <mailinglist@fastforward.ca> wrote:
>> So
basically you reduced the ground clearance by 6"? Poor
>>
squirrels, shrews and other low lying animals! What about the angle
>> of the gearbox and it's correct oiling? Did you offer any
protection
>> for road debris? Lowing the engine by an inch or
two I can see, but
>> 6" Every 15 degree that I saw
mounted under the cover was at a
>> great loss of ground
clearance. If you stick to asphalt roads in the
>> summer time
this may be OK, but something that I wouldn't do.
>>
>> About the only thing one can do with an ABA to make a *minimal*
bump in
>> the engine cover at 15 degrees is replace the
cylinder head with one
>> from
>> a 1.8L Digifant II
and then transfer all the goodies over to the new
>> head
>> and intake manifold. Quite the surgery job and if you have an
OBD-2
>> ABA engine you need to transfer over the throttle
valve which means some
>> aluminium welding and the like...
>>
>> David Marshall
>>
>>
http://www.hasenwerk.ca
>> http://www.fastforward.ca
>>
>> Box
>> 4153, Quesnel BC, Canada V2J
3J2
>>
>> On Thu, November 8, 2007
>>
05:46, Ken Wilford wrote:
>> > We did this mod for a
customer.
>> Basically you have to lower the engine
>> > by about 6 inches to get
>> it to fit. We did
this by welding steel "L"
>> > plates
>> onto the engine carrier bars.
>> > Here is how we
did it:
>> >
>> We then installed some liquid
filled mounts from a Jetta onto the
>> bottom
>>
> of the alloy engine mounts. Then install your "L
>>
shaped brackets to the
>> > bottom. Now use the jack that
has been
>> supporting your motor this whole
>> >
time and lower the engine to
>> the desired height. Make some
tack welds.
>> > Support the engine
>> again and
remove the carrier bars. Weld stuff up
>> > right.
>> Replace carrier bars and you should be good to go.
>> >
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>> >> Is it possible to put an ABA 2.0L at 15 degrees in a
Westy
>> without
>> >> modifying the lid?
>> >> Best regards.
>> >> Gilles Turmel
>>
>
>
> --
> Neil Nicholson.
1981 Air Cooled Westfalia -
> "Jaco" (Bustorius)
>
> http://web.mac.com/tubaneil
>
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