Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2007 10:51:41 -0800
Reply-To: David Kao <dtkao0205@YAHOO.COM>
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From: David Kao <dtkao0205@YAHOO.COM>
Subject: Re: Was: Leaky ... fuel injector? Now: suck fuel/air through
vaccum side of fuel regulator?
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Here you go, one very best and generous help you can get from the list.
Neil, you now carry a lot of responsibility to save that engine for
all of us.
David
--- Dennis Haynes <d23haynes57@HOTMAIL.COM> wrote:
> The pistons and cylinders can be very forgiving of the gas washout. The
> bearings are not. Yes, drain and refill the engine with fresh oil. While the
> filter is off, use a gear oil pump or other device filled with fresh oil and
> some how connect it to the center oil fillter pipe. Then push the fresh oil
> into the galleys. It will not need a lot of pressure. Slowly push the oil
> in. You will feel the galleys fill and keep pushing some more. This will get
> oil to the bearings.
>
> Put the filter back on and then go ahead and start the engine. The pump will
> prime a lot faster then using the starter and the spash will quickly get
> those cylinder walls lubed. My bet is that that pressure regulator failed
> while the engine was running make it runn real bad. Then after it was shut
> down it never restarted and then filled the cylinders. As long as the enigne
> wasn't forced to turn with a cylinder filled, it should be OK.
>
> Dennis
>
>
> >From: neil N <musomuso@GMAIL.COM>
> >Reply-To: neil N <musomuso@GMAIL.COM>
> >To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
> >Subject: Re: Was: Leaky ... fuel injector? Now: suck fuel/air through
> > vaccum side of fuel regulator?
> >Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2007 10:04:13 -0800
> >
> >Oh don't worry I'm thinking positively! --- :^)
> >
> >Yah the PO claimed he could do 110-120 KM's per hour in this thing.
> >And climbing hills was no problem (relatively speaking in a Vanagon
> >world). He figured engine was rebuilt at one time because of how it
> >performed.
> >
> >I will def. check out FI's. And thanks for pointer to ECU and fuel
> >pump. I will pre-oil what I can (a bit of oil in each spark plug hole,
> >fresh oil/filter) spin it, then try firing it.
> >
> >Thanks,
> >
> >Neil.
> >
> >On 11/12/07, David Kao <dtkao0205@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > > Neil:
> > >
> > > WBX engines in my opinion are very tough. I used to think of getting
> > > rid of my 84 due to it getting old and sitting there too long not being
> > > used. I got it registered again and gave it some tune up and fuel.
> > > It did not disappoint me.
> > >
> > > My suggestion is to think more positively. It can be a perfect engine
> > > still. Drain it. Put fresh oil in it. Remove the fuel lines and
> >injectors
> > > from the top of the engine and check them out. Disconnect the power to
> > > the fuel pump. Disconnect ECU and ignition wiring and spark plugs.
> > > Then crank the engine and see how it spins. Make sure battery is fully
> > > charged and give it a compression check. If you get 120 PSI for all 4
> > > cylinders the engine can climb the 10,000 ft summit on Tioga Pass in
> > > Yosemite at 3rd gear. It will run up to 80 MPH if you push it on flat
> > > freeway. That's what my 84 did in the summer this year. Even if one or
> > > two cylinders get low compression at 100 PSI it can be easily rebuilt
> >still.
> > > This list has plenty of helping hands. Good luck and don't send it to
> > > recycle.
> > >
> > > David
> > >
> > >
> > > --- neil N <musomuso@GMAIL.COM> wrote:
> > >
> > > > Last night I was picturing in my mind just how horrid it could be with
> > > > all that fluid in there and the PO trying to start it. Yikes! Yah who
> > > > knows what happened in there. Thanks for the heads up though.
> > > >
> > > > With any luck nothing got bent or suffered from too much friction. If
> > > > it runs it runs. Someone gets a deal. If not, I'm parting it out then
> > > > it's scrap metal time for the engine block/heads.
> > > >
> > > > Unless a rebuilder will give me core $$ even though I'm not buying an
> > > > engine from him. Ehhhh.... not likely!
> > > >
> > > > Neil.
> > > >
> > > > On 11/12/07, Allan Streib <streib@cs.indiana.edu> wrote:
> > > > > David Kao <dtkao0205@YAHOO.COM> writes:
> > > > >
> > > > > > There is a possibility that it is still a good engine despite that
> > > > > > it is full of gasoline in it. I think one of the injectors has its
> > > > > > core shot out and the engine has become a deep pit for receiving
> > > > > > constant flow of gas as soon as the fuel pump begins pumping. Save
> > > > > > the engine. Whatever the problem it may be it is not one in the
> > > > > > engine.
> > > > >
> > > > > If it hydrolocked with a liquid in the cylinder, you could have a
> >bent
> > > > > rod.
> > > > >
> > > > > Allan
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > Neil Nicholson. 1981 Air Cooled Westfalia -
> > > > "Jaco" (Bustorius)
> > > >
> > > > http://web.mac.com/tubaneil
> > > >
> > >
> > >
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> >--
> >Neil Nicholson. 1981 Air Cooled Westfalia -
> >"Jaco" (Bustorius)
> >
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