Date:         Mon, 12 Nov 2007 18:16:32 -0800
Reply-To:     Joseph Fortino <fortino1@EARTHLINK.NET>
Sender:       Vanagon Mailing List <vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com>
From:         Joseph Fortino <fortino1@EARTHLINK.NET>
Subject:      Re: 1.9L itermittent stalling at random
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85 syndrome.. trust me.. I battled some wild stuff in 119f in Vegas.. running to hot
could be all kinds of things. I say o2 wire maybe

-----Original Message-----
>From: Walter Houle <whoule@ECSCONTROLS.COM>
>Sent: Nov 12, 2007 5:03 PM
>To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
>Subject: Re: 1.9L itermittent stalling at random
>
>Brian -
>
>I have an 85 1.9 w/205K miles and had similar problems. It started with an
>intermittent miss on the freeway, progressed to a full cut-out at freeway
>speeds, and was really awful with moisture present. Luckily, we live where
>it rarely rains. I ended up replacing the coil, spark plug wires, cap,
>rotor, plugs, etc. but that didn't do it. I finally noticed the wires for
>the hall sender were rubbed bare where they exited the back of the
>distributor. The rubber grommet had crumbled with age. I bought a new hall
>sender from Van Cafe and paid a local shop to install it. Problem solved.
>The van ran much better and the mileage even went up from 19 to 21 MPG.
>That was about 3 months ago. So,its worth a look. However please note that
>on our way home last night, the van experienced one of those intermittent
>misses again....... Not sure if its even related yet.
>
>Walter
>
>On Mon, 12 Nov 2007 07:19:23 -0800, Brian Jarvinen
><brianvwagain@YAHOO.COM> wrote:
>
>>well it's that time again. I've been through this
>>before
>>but have to work through it again. the fuel seems to
>>cut out at seemingly random times.
>>
>>I tried to do some archive searches about my questions
>>but on dial-up that is very frustrating.
>>
>>My Westy is an 84 1.9L
>>manufactured 12/83; I also have an extra
>>Vanagon manufactured 11/83 that I've mostly
>>finished parting out and using for spares.
>>
>>but something is cutting off the fuel seemingly
>>at random. first symptoms appeared on rainy
>>days but we've had a lot of those and I don't
>>think an exposed wire getting moist is the
>>culprit because the symptoms started again
>>on a warm sunny day this weekend.
>>
>>Checked so far -
>>
>>all grounds cleaned, di-electric greased, sealed
>>with wire-dryer spray.
>>
>>fuel filter changed.
>>
>>temp-sensor II - about two years old. but
>>van can run perfectly when fully warmed for
>>long periods, then start the herky-jerkys.
>>previous experience with this sensor going
>>bad was much different but I guess still
>>possible. haven't tested it with slowly
>>warming water yet.
>>
>>fuel pump relays - seem solid. have had
>>these cause this problem in the past, detectable
>>when ever hitting a bump in the road. also
>>when the inside of the relay rattles a little bit.
>>swapped one out anyway, no change.
>>
>>fuel pump - pressurizes normally on
>>start up. I never hear it make the re-pressurization
>>sound again after that. but it is the original
>>pump ... 24 years, 250K miles...
>>
>>so question 1 - what are the symptoms
>>of a fuel pump going bad?
>>
>>fuel pressure regulator - I could test this, I
>>have in the past with the little port at the
>>fuel-line T, but testing for this is...what
>>if when I test it, everything is working just
>>exactly perfect? I wouldn't think a regulator
>>problem would be so random.
>>
>>the coil - actually swapped this out for
>>other reasons. an educational experience
>>I will write about in another post, perhaps
>>it will help someone else. no change in symptoms.
>>
>>ahhh, the air sensors - I can test these with
>>the box off, per Bentley, and all tests show
>>correctly. again testing can only reveal
>>so much - sometimes the van runs perfectly
>>for 20 minutes at a time. what if I am
>>testing when the sensor arm is on the right spot?
>>
>>so question 2 - what are the symptoms of
>>these sensors flaking out?
>>
>>I'm leaning towards just replacing the
>>air sensors. unfortunately I already gave away
>>my extra air box I think, can't find my extra
>>one anywhere. but at $150 and several days
>>shipping, I keep hoping I can find something
>>simpler to try next.
>>


Kind Regards,
Joseph Fortino
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