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Date:         Wed, 14 Nov 2007 17:38:30 -0800
Reply-To:     Jake de Villiers <crescentbeachguitar@GMAIL.COM>
Sender:       Vanagon Mailing List <vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com>
From:         Jake de Villiers <crescentbeachguitar@GMAIL.COM>
Subject:      Re: Now: Thanks! (+ Report. Long.) Was: Leaky ... fuel injector?
              (and fuel press. regulator)
Comments: To: neil N <musomuso@gmail.com>
In-Reply-To:  <c4e7c5f90711141726g590de839g99fd65c60cc2eb37@mail.gmail.com>
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And you learned a few things along the way. :)

On Nov 14, 2007 5:26 PM, neil N <musomuso@gmail.com> wrote:

> Yah could be the damage is done. Really hard to know. This engine is a > bonus so to speak. I bought the van for other parts. I know I'll get > my value out of it. I figured I'd get the engine running and pass it > along, but it could be the potential for an internal part failing > prematurely is high. Oh well. All it "cost" me was an oil filter and > oil.... and my time! ---:^) > > Neil. > > > > On 11/14/07, Mike <mbucchino@charter.net> wrote: > > Gas-diluted oil will 'wipe out' the bearings very quickly. Cylinders/ > > rings are probably also scored due to lack of lube. The damage is > probably > > already done. Now it's likely to be overhaul time due to persistent, > > continued attempts to 'just get it running'........... > > I wouldn't trust this engine to carry me around the block, without a > good > > look inside. Using a more thorough approach can prevent this kind of > > un-needed expense; hindsight is 20-20. But, you can't undo the PO's > wrongs; > > only start over, by doing all the right things from here on out. > > > > Mike B. > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "neil N" <musomuso@GMAIL.COM> > > To: <vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM> > > Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2007 7:04 PM > > Subject: Now: Thanks! (+ Report. Long.) Was: Leaky ... fuel injector? > (and > > fuel press. regulator) > > > > > > > Hi all. > > > > > > First off, many thanks to all for the ideas/suggestions regarding > > > getting the engine in my parts Vanagon to run. It runs now, though I'm > > > not totally sure of it's condition. > > > > > > For the benefit of the curious and other newbies here's what happened. > > > > > > The PO unknowingly ran engine, or started it many times, until the > > > crankcase was FULL of gas/oil. Turns out the engine had a faulty fuel > > > pressure regulator (broken diaphram). I took it off and found I could > > > blow air into the small opening (NON fuel side of diaphram) through to > > > the fuel side. A bad thing. As such, when running, being started, or > > > just sitting overnight, fuel would go past the diaphram and into crank > > > case via a small tube that connects to the air intake distributor. > > > That was most of the problem. > > > > > > Solution. > > > > > > Drained the gas/oil out of engine, replaced the FPR, squirted oil in > > > each cylinder, turned the engine by hand with new oil in it (filter > > > too) until it turned easily. Spun it with the starter quite a few > > > times, cleaned the plugs, double checked everything and fired it up. > > > It started right away! But was smokey as hell and stalled. I figured > > > it was burning off the oil I had squirted in so tried a few more > > > times. It still burned blue-ish, but I thought there was more to it. I > > > checked the plugs. They had gotten black. Too rich. The distributor > > > was loose too. So I timed it statically. Eventually got that close > > > enough. I also did a visual check on the FI's. On one cylinder, the > > > injector looked like it had a melted tip. It was slightly shorter than > > > the other beside it. I replaced the pair on that side. It ran better. > > > Then I realized (Duh. I'm so "old school") that I needed the air > > > filter housing on!! Need that air sensor connected! Put that on, it > > > ran WAY better. This explained the fouling plugs. > > > > > > It seems to have good power. It revs up great. The blue smoke cleared > > > up, ( I assume it was smoke resulting from a rich mixture due to a > > > lack of the air sensor and possibly due to a bunged FI) but then it > > > *seemed* to be blowing some white smoke. Actually more totally moist > > > exhaust than white like a blown head gasket. Anyhow...... It was too > > > much smoke overall and I figured I'd given the neighbours enough for > > > the day, so I shut er' down. > > > > > > The engine has a light clattering noise which I think is lifters, but > > > I have no idea what happened to the engine when it stopped running. > > > But right now it revs up great and idles well. (given that the timing > > > is likely off a bit) > > > > > > Too bad. I'm suspect of the white smoke. I think this engine is core > > > material. Good news is that I know an air cooled starter will work in > > > a WBX tranny, and that the ECU etc. is likely fine. Maybe someone can > > > use that stuff. The engine sure sounds powerful. I may do a > > > compression test for the halibut. (need to buy the tool first. a good > > > investment) > > > > > > So again, thanks much for all the help. I learned lots. > > > > > > Cheers, > > > > > > Neil. > > > > > > -- > > > Neil Nicholson. 1981 Air Cooled Westfalia - > > > "Jaco" (Bustorius) > > > > > > http://web.mac.com/tubaneil > > > > > > > > > -- > Neil Nicholson. 1981 Air Cooled Westfalia - > "Jaco" (Bustorius) > > http://web.mac.com/tubaneil >

-- Jake 1984 Vanagon GL 1986 Westy Weekender "Dixie" www.crescentbeachguitar.com http://subyjake.googlepages.com/


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