Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2007 17:17:32 -0800
Reply-To: Mark Drillock <drillock@EARTHLINK.NET>
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From: Mark Drillock <drillock@EARTHLINK.NET>
Subject: Re: Girling vs ATE Calipers
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You did not say what year you have.
If you have the 80-85 with front pads held by long pins, look and see if
the pins have tiny cotter pins on one end. If so, those are the rarer
Girling. If not, they are the more common ATE.
On the very different 86-91 calipers, it would be more rare for them to
be ATE but there are some. Most are Girling. These years have floating
front calipers and the main visual difference in the caliper pins. The
pins are hidden in the Girling and exposed on the ATE. Also the Girlings
are held to the hidden pins with exposed 13mm head bolts. The ATE are
held to exposed pins with Allen head bolts hidden in a rubber sleeve.
Both types of 80-85 take the same square pads.
Both types of 86-91 take the same more irregular shaped pads.
Mark
Jonce Fancher wrote:
> Hi all
> Just another question to throw out there.
> How would one know if they had Girling or ATE Calipers on theyre Vanagon? Of course if you can read the caliper that gives it away but say you dont know or
> cant tell. what gives one away to being a certain manufacturer??
> My vanagon will stop but not like I think it should. Im going to swap out the hoses since im sure they are OE but the calipers bite but if you Romp on the brake
> you sorta just stop like you did with a standard slow down.
> I did swap out the Booster that did away with the Hiss that you would get when pressing real hard. Also the Master cylinder was leaking a small amount into the
> Booster at the time. So the Master and booster was replaced. Stops but not on a dime. I know it is heavy and bulky and Ive looked into the Big Brake kit and
> have most of what I need to make it go.
> But My 84 vanagon with only 24k stops so good it will toss you out of your seat. I know there is a bit of a wheight diff since it is a 7 pass vs the westi. But still it
> should bite down instead of just slow down.
> Any suggestions on my ramblings? The rears have new wheel cylinders and I think hoses. If not it will get them this winter.
> C-ya Jonce
>
> Jonce Fancher
>
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