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Date:         Fri, 16 Nov 2007 11:43:36 -0800
Reply-To:     David Kao <dtkao0205@YAHOO.COM>
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From:         David Kao <dtkao0205@YAHOO.COM>
Subject:      Re: Turning Circles in your mind. ;)
Comments: To: Aristotle Sagan <killer.jupiter@GMAIL.COM>
In-Reply-To:  <b45a982b0711161121x550ee693x898ae3c9b9b82a2@mail.gmail.com>
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I thought they are every where. Usually at the end it is called a court. In residential area there are some long courts and they always have a sign that says "not a through street". My Vanagon never needs to turn around at the end if I run into one by mistake. Most cars do go to the end to make the turn.

David

--- Aristotle Sagan <killer.jupiter@GMAIL.COM> wrote:

> Obviously no one owns a Fiat 850 in your neighborhood. > > Where did you find an alley in San Jose anyway? There aren't many here. > > tim in san jose > > On 11/16/07, David Kao <dtkao0205@yahoo.com> wrote: > > > > My god, unca Joel, how do you know my Vanagon is the only vehicle that > > can turn around in the alley in my neighborhood without having to stop and > > move backward then try again? > > > > David > > > > --- joel walker <jwalker17@EARTHLINK.NET> wrote: > > > > > > Martin, I don't know why you say this about the turning radius. My > > > > 82-88 > > > > owners manuals all give the same turning radius with no distinction > > > > made > > > > between manual and PS. Do you have technical data that shows a > > > > difference? > > > > > > in the 1985 vanagon brochure from VW, it sez: > > > > > > "Turning circle: 35.1 feet (37.7 feet with power steering)" > > > same thing in the 1986 brochure. > > > > > > in the 1980 camper brochure,it sez: > > > "turning circle,curb to curb: 34.5 feet /10.5 m." > > > same in the 1983 brochure. > > > > > > > > > in the 1988 brochure, it sez only: > > > "turning circle 35.8 feet" > > > no mention of power steering. > > > same in the 1989 brochure. > > > and in the 1991 brochure. > > > > > > so it looks like vw just put whatever number they felt like would sell > > > the bus. which usually is the lower/smaller one. > > > > > > i know that my 1986 bus WITH power steering did NOT turn as sharply as > > > my 1980 bus WITHOUT power steering. it seemed more like 3 feet > > > difference to me ... the 1980 bus could whip around on a two lane road > > > without getting too far off the pavement on either side, but the 1986 > > > bus would get off into the grass on the side of the road. :( > > > > > > now, there's also one other factor to consider: > > > the size of the steering wheel. > > > with NON-power steering, the wheel is bigger, and you can put a bit > > > more force/torque and haul that sucker around quicker. in my opinion. > > > with the smaller WITH-power steering wheel, the wheel is smaller and > > > you kinda have to grab at it more times to get completely locked to > > > one side. > > > > > > or it's a combination of the two: the power steering difference in > > > geometry somewhere down under there, and the size of the steering > > > wheel. > > > > > > anybody even run power steering with the non-power-steering steering > > > wheel? wonder if it would make the steering too twitchy? > > > > > > interestingly enough, in the 1997 eurovan camper brochure (the > > > winnebago one), it doesn't even list the turning circle. anybody know > > > how the eurovan compares to the vanagon in turning circle? > > > > > > joel > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________________________________________________________________________________ > > Be a better pen pal. > > Text or chat with friends inside Yahoo! Mail. See how. > > http://overview.mail.yahoo.com/ > > > > > > -- > Where ever you are, there you be. Unless you're driving my van, in which > case, you ain't got there yet. >

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