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Date:         Tue, 20 Nov 2007 19:45:32 -0800
Reply-To:     Old Volks Home <oldvolkshome@GMAIL.COM>
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From:         Old Volks Home <oldvolkshome@GMAIL.COM>
Subject:      Re: Microfiche or Bentley (paper)
Comments: To: Loren Busch <starwagen@gmail.com>
In-Reply-To:  <86476e250711201722l2a2f61a9ic13c29648d5219fb@mail.gmail.com>
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This is my knowledgeable reply:

The repair manuals on Fiche were an actual homogenization of Bentley and VW - the VW part being the various Tech and Workshop Bulletins issued throughout the vehicle's production inserted therein for the vehicle involved. I have a library (in print form) of several Workshop/Tech Bulletins which show certain repairs and specifications in greater detail than what is shown in the later vehicle Bentley manuals. While I have seen the fiche(s) in the past, I never bothered to collect them and in retrospect I probably should have, especially for the older models that in some fashion probably aren't all there in the 12 CD Set.

Now for *some* later models, certain CDs are essentially the same as what Bentley issued in their crummy E-Bahn format, but not all.

The other more commonly known fiche are the parts book fiche used in the VW MPF2400 reader that was commonly seen at Volkswagen (and Porsche-Audi) dealerships from 1974 until superseded by ETKA (and for Porsche PET). Because of continual data transfer errors from the original Parts Fiche to ETKA encountered over the years, I have religiously retained my Parts Fiche collection and reader, as well as my original collection Parts Books in print form stretching back to the 50s, which is used daily in my work (and hobby during the "off-time as well).

I'm still not sure I would spring $599 to bring my "library" up-to-date, but I have spent a considerable sum over the past 40 years for many of the reference books, fiche(s), machines and database references that I do have. Some of them are irreplaceable and contribute to answering questions directed to me from my website. I just may burn up a credit card to get it anyway. Because of Allan's comment of an "insecure" site, I'll just call on the telephone. -- Jim Thompson 84 GL 1.9 "Gloria" 84 Westfalia 2.1 "Ole Putt" 73 K Ghia Coupe "Denise" 72 411 Station Wagon "Pug" oldvolkshome@gmail.com http://www.oldvolkshome.com *********************************** On Nov 20, 2007 5:22 PM, Loren Busch <starwagen@gmail.com> wrote: > I you go back and read what is said at the VW site it says REPAIR MANUALS on > CD in .pdf format. It doesn't say Parts Catalog so it's not the same as > ETKA. > Now the question for those out there that will know, those that do or have > worked in a VW dealers shop. Were the repair manuals on Fiche identical to > the Bentley OR di VW create their own repair procedures or is there a > combination of things in the Fiche/CDs/Bently paper manual? And please, no > more guesses, answers from those with the experience and knowledge only. > > > On Nov 20, 2007 4:38 PM, Allan Streib <streib@cs.indiana.edu> wrote: > > > No, that's exactly what I DON'T want, and am trying to determine. If > > this is just a electronic version of the book, I'd rather have the > > book. > > > > >


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