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Date:         Thu, 15 Nov 2007 20:17:48 -0800
Reply-To:     Scott Daniel - Shazam <scottdaniel@TURBOVANS.COM>
Sender:       Vanagon Mailing List <vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com>
From:         Scott Daniel - Shazam <scottdaniel@TURBOVANS.COM>
Subject:      Re: Earl Scheib paint job
Comments: To: Geza Polony <gezapolony@SBCGLOBAL.NET>
In-Reply-To:  <vanagon%2007111520132825@GERRY.VANAGON.COM>
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Well good luck. If you're requirement is that it's one color, and no major bashed in areas, and its prevented from getting further SURFACE RUST, you might be ok. Other than that, I don't care what you pay, even 5,000 dollars, I have seen about one really good repaint job in my entire career and life of doing car work full time professionally. And actually, since you usually get lousy work anyway, regardless of price paid, the cheap job looks like a real bargain ! I am not kidding - overspray, painted exhaust pipes, paint through the vent grills, paint on the rubber striping.....on and on. The backsides of a new fender not even primered. Painted tail light wiring .....you name it, paint in the wrong places, terrible prep, grind marks showing in the really bad cases, orange peel, runs...etc. It simply is not possible to get a really good paint job, not to be cynical. But it's a crime really, what shops turn out, regardless of price I think. I had a guy paint a BMW coupe for me. A 'real' paint and body shop. I told him I wasn't that concerned about the price, but mainly that it be a good job. I had to take it back. And dozens of cases like this on car repaint jobs. Based on that, the cheapo paint job, if you must have one, sounds all right.

-----Original Message----- From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com] On Behalf Of Geza Polony Sent: Thursday, November 15, 2007 5:09 PM To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM Subject: Earl Scheib paint job

OK, I'm considering an Earl Scheib paint job. Before you pile all over me, consider this: the van has rust "issues," as in holes you can put your finger through, and it will never be perfect. It's also a camping vehicle and that means I don't want to worry about the finish too much as I think it would take away from the fun of camping to have to do so.

I got an Earl Scheib job done decades ago and it was terrible. You could see this poor Volvo with "repaint" written all over it for about a block away. The question, then:

Has anybody used Earl Scheib recently? Has the quality improved? Anything close to factory colors?

FYI, They will spray the van for $399 plus tax, adding $50 a jamb/door if I want them done. I can take off all the easy stuff like turn signals and they'll mask the rest. Sounds like if I do the bondo I'll be paying under $700.

Spray it again, Sam. It's that time again.


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