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Date:         Sun, 25 Nov 2007 19:00:49 -0800
Reply-To:     Brian Jarvinen <brianvwagain@YAHOO.COM>
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From:         Brian Jarvinen <brianvwagain@YAHOO.COM>
Subject:      Re: What do I need?
In-Reply-To:  <d51.193efe65.347aed09@aol.com>
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--- JordanVw@AOL.COM wrote:

> drain plug. (ps, the drain plug > is screwed into the bottom of the engine case..if > you strip the threads, > youve got bit problems these is no such thing as > "replacing the oil pan").

actually it can turn out to be not too terrible. I stripped mine on the 30th or so oil change (247K miles when the odometer broke) I was doing; I had the wrench on the plug, forgot what I was doing momentarily and pushed the wrench the wrong way. Unfortunately, the plug moved! I knew immediately the threads would probably be stripped. And I think this is not too hard to do with an aluminum alloy pan?

It was a dismal few hours of thinking about this situation. I went to my friendly local oil change place and they hooked me up with a new plug-in-plug. It is a little bigger than the original; you screw it into the pan and it cuts new threads on the way in. Inside the plug is another bolt that you use to drain the oil. It takes a little longer but it works fine.

I had another scare when a mechanic who was rebuilding some shift arm / linkage parts for me went ahead and changed the oil too. (Oil only had 1000 miles on it and I didn't ask him to do this). Anyhow I think he tightened that little bolt down with an air wrench or something because there was no way I could turn it. (And there is not a lot of space in this area with this new dual plug). I finally went back to the shop that sold me the plug-in-plug and asked for their help. They tried for a while and finally said the only solution is to take out the big plug. I was worried I wouldn't be able to thread it into the pan again, and it does now have a very slight leak right there.

So far, somewhat good. I've changed the oil a couple times since then. I hope the plug holds together. Otherwise, it's finally time to put in that other engine I have.

So, be careful putting a wrench on that drain plug. The 'pan' is not as strong as you might think.

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