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Date:         Fri, 30 Nov 2007 09:38:13 -0500
Reply-To:     craig cowan <phishman068@GMAIL.COM>
Sender:       Vanagon Mailing List <vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com>
From:         craig cowan <phishman068@GMAIL.COM>
Subject:      Re: '84 value?
Comments: To: Scott Daniel - Shazam <scottdaniel@turbovans.com>
In-Reply-To:  <027901c83315$c5f3acf0$6701a8c0@TOSHIBALAP>
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I keep a printout of the ebay add from my van that claims it to be a "VERY GOOD VAN" in which "EVERYTHING WORKS" and "ALMOST NO RUST"............ It seems almost illegal in my case! It supposedly even had a brand new exhaust system, which i had to go through (to the tune of $580!!!) right after getting it. The guy even tried to argue with us that the reason you simply could not find first gear, was because "they're all like that, you start it in 2nd". I just reminded him that they probably had a reason for building the car with 4 speeds instead of 3, and something is probably wrong (it ended up being worn out shift linkages, and after fixing it i let him take it for a spin and he was amazed).

Look before you leap, but never be afraid to make the jump. -Craig '85GL rust Bucket/Lawn Art

On Nov 30, 2007 12:56 AM, Scott Daniel - Shazam <scottdaniel@turbovans.com> wrote:

> If this van is truly as good as is claimed, it's worth the price. > *No reflection on this ad* , but I'm fixing about 250 things in this > 82 > diesel westy that has a 98 subaru 2.2 engine in it that was on ebay at > some > point. . There's an old ebay print out in the van. The ebay ad makes > this > van sound wonderful - claims '93 % restored' and 'great conversion' etc. > I'm into it about a hundred hours, and mostly I'm getting endless > horrible 'work' fixed properly. Sometimes the sellers even honestly > believe it's a good vehicle, with no particular issues, but little do they > actually know. > And, again, no reflection on boston bob's ad here- I would expect it's > quite worth the price and a good westy overall for sure. > Scott > www.turbovans.com > > -----Original Message----- > From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com] On Behalf Of > Bob Donalds > Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2007 5:24 PM > To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM > Subject: Re: '84 value? > > I can resist > my van is an 84 and this is what its worth > http://www.thesamba.com/vw/classifieds/detail.php?id=494881 > > I think front brake life depends on rear brakes working correctly and that > is not often the case > as my add says 80 % left in 30K > > Bob Donalds > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Jake de Villiers" <crescentbeachguitar@GMAIL.COM> > To: <vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM> > Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2007 12:06 AM > Subject: Re: '84 value? > > > > Somebody's got to go first Neil and it mi9ght as well be you. :) > > > > We'll help. > > > > On Nov 28, 2007 8:31 PM, neil N <musomuso@gmail.com> wrote: > > > >> True. I had the Wiki in mind. > >> > >> I guess I could start an article. > >> > >> The trick is to get other listers over there to put their .02 in! --- > ;^) > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> On 11/28/07, Jake de Villiers <crescentbeachguitar@gmail.com > wrote: > >> > > >> > You could consolidate all this and add it to the Vanagon Wiki. :) > >> > > >> > On Nov 28, 2007 8:11 PM, neil N < musomuso@gmail.com> wrote: > >> > > >> > > So this begs the question. > >> > > Is there a data base somewhere listing the minute differences > between > >> > > the > >> > > various years? > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > On 11/28/07, Mike Collum <collum@verizon.net> wrote: > >> > > > > >> > > > Just to show that things changed during the model year of '85, My > >> > > '85 > >> > > > Westy has the "Old style" emergency brake handle and ratchet, > metal > >> > > > coolant pipes (not plastic), but cast lower control arms and the > >> > > single > >> > > > throttle position switch. > >> > > > > >> > > > Mike > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > Dennis Haynes wrote: > >> > > > > 85 got the larger diameter coolant hoses and plastic pipes. > Most > >> > > have > >> > > > > power steering and a Tach. Many will have the cast front lower > >> > > control > >> > > > > arms. > >> > > > > > >> > > > > The 2.1 is different in many ways including better front > brakes. > >> > > > > > >> > > > > Dennis > >> > > > > > >> > > > > -----Original Message----- > >> > > > > From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto: vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com] > On > >> > > Behalf > >> > > > Of > >> > > > > John Reynolds > >> > > > > Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2007 12:01 PM > >> > > > > To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM > >> > > > > Subject: Re: '84 value? > >> > > > > > >> > > > > " The next year, 85 is considerably better, and 86 to 91's much > >> > > better > >> > > > > yet. " > >> > > > > > >> > > > > Can Scott or someone else explain how an 85 is considerably > >> > > > > better > >> > > than > >> > > > an > >> > > > > 84, and why an 86, besides having a 2.1, is even better. I'm > >> > > curious. > >> > > > > > >> > > > > It seems to me that if you are going to do an engine > conversion, > >> > > then > >> > > > > perhaps picking up one of these 84's is the way to go - no? > >> > > > > > >> > > > > John > >> > > > > 87 VW WWW or VW W^3 or is that V(W)^4 ? (Wolfsburg Wesfalia > >> > > Weekender) > >> > > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > -- > >> > > Neil Nicholson. 1981 Air Cooled Westfalia - > >> > > "Jaco" (Bustorius) http://web.mac.com/tubaneil > >> > > > >> > > Engine swap beginings: http://musomuso.googlepages.com/home > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > -- > >> > Jake > >> > 1984 Vanagon GL > >> > 1986 Westy Weekender "Dixie" > >> > Crescent Beach, BC > >> > www.crescentbeachguitar.com > >> > http://subyjake.googlepages.com/ > >> > > >> > >> > >> > >> -- > >> Neil Nicholson. 1981 Air Cooled Westfalia - > >> "Jaco" (Bustorius) http://web.mac.com/tubaneil > >> > >> Engine swap beginings: http://musomuso.googlepages.com/home > >> > > > > > > > > -- > > Jake > > 1984 Vanagon GL > > 1986 Westy Weekender "Dixie" > > Crescent Beach, BC > > www.crescentbeachguitar.com > > http://subyjake.googlepages.com/ >


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