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Date:         Thu, 29 Nov 2007 00:05:16 -0500
Reply-To:     "syncro.carboncow" <syncro.carboncow@GMAIL.COM>
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From:         "syncro.carboncow" <syncro.carboncow@GMAIL.COM>
Subject:      Re: Changed thermostat - temp gauge still reads stone cold
Comments: To: Allan Streib <streib@CS.INDIANA.EDU>
In-Reply-To:  <03A494D8-7608-4350-A050-D1C5BB033D6D@cs.indiana.edu>
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I would disagree. Good for a couple of years? They often go 15+ in our vanagons before failure!

Again I've talked to the sources and although the failure of a new sensor is not impossible it is uncommon.

Low temps = high resistance. He most likely has a ground, wire or gauge issue before a bad new sensor.

We still need to know why is fan is not running!

Shawn Ohio

> -----Original Message----- > From: Vanagon Mailing List > [mailto:vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com] On > Behalf Of Allan Streib > Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2007 > 11:54 PM > To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM > Subject: Re: Changed thermostat - temp > gauge still reads stone cold > > If the gauge is working, I think this > sounds like the sensor. Had > the very same thing happen to me in an > A2 Jetta, which I would assume > shares a lot of the same > instrumentation. In my experience > those > sensors (both for the gauge and the > ECU) are only good for a few > years. Luckily they're pretty > inexpensive; I recommend keeping > spares on hand. > > Allan > > On Nov 28, 2007, at 11:43 PM, Scott > Daniel - Shazam wrote: > > > First you need to find out if it's > really running that cold, or if > > the gauge > > is just reading low or not working. > > You did say the heater works well - > so maybe it is running warmly > > enough. > > Easiest way to find out temps very > quickly and completely non- > > intrusively is > > with an infrared temp gun - so many > uses you gotta have one. > > Check the main hoses coming off the > engine, you'd like to see 180 > > - 190 or > > so warmed up . > > If I am wondering if the temp gage > is working, I just jumper the > > two wires > > together - undo them from the > *gauge* sensor, not the ECU one, > > jumper them > > together, turn on the key, and see > if the temp gauge pegs. If it > > does, > > it's workin.' > > Scott > > turbovans > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Vanagon Mailing List > [mailto:vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com] On > > Behalf Of > > David M > > Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2007 > 8:15 PM > > To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM > > Subject: Changed thermostat - temp > gauge still reads stone cold > > > > I went on the first extended test > drive today after > > replacing my thermostat. The > temperature gauge still > > does not move above the lowest thick > bar. If anything, > > it's worse than it was before. Is it > possible the > > replacement thermostat was bad (it > was a brand new > > Behr)? Or, is it possible there is > some other problem? > > The van drives well and puts out > lots of heat from the > > vents. The fan is not running. I > hate to think I'm > > damaging the engine. > > > > David ('87 Wolfsburg 2.1 auto) > > > > > > > > > ______________________________________ > ________________________________ > > ______ > > ________ > > Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your > home page. > > http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs > >


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